[info]madlodger_007 in [info]07refugees

LJ Automatically Removes Videos Marked "Explicit Adult Content"

I am not sure if this issue was discussed here before, you are welcome to delete this post if it was.

I am on IJ now (going permanent soon)  but keep a basic LJ account to keep in touch with friends. Today I decided to post imbedded video in one of my entries. That video was a joke and had some naked Barbie Dolls having sex as explicit content *cough, cough*. OK, I know that I am immature! 

My journal is set to Adult Concepts because, frankly, I don't see why anyone under 14 would want to read my entries nor would I want them to. But I digress. I posted that "Barbie Porn" video in a f-locked post. And then I decided to use "Explicit Adult Content" setting for the first time. Just being a responsible adult and censoring my own entry.

LJ automatically removed a video in the entry marked "Explicit Adult Content"!!!
All I had left on my Recent Entries page was written staff.
So, I deleted the entry altogether.

Perhaps everybody already knows about this, but to me it was a total shock. My entry was never public, going from "private" to "friendslocked". But video content got removed as soon as marked "Explicit". And it's quite possible that the fact of auto-removal of "adult" video from my journal is tallied somewhere in my account stats. 

The very first use of Explicit self-censoring was a huge disappointment and I am not inclined to repeat this experience.
I used to think that it was a useful tool, a convenience, but the way it's implemented - no.


How, exactly, did they remove the video? Edit out the link to it or what? Are you absolutely sure that the video wasn't removed from the source host? (I know YouTube will pull explicit content.)

I wouldn't put something like this past LJ, but...just making sure.
It is still on youtube and is not censored there. It seemed that a chunk of HTML code conaining embed src= ... was gone as soon as I saved entry after changing to explicit.
I am going to try and do it again and see if it workes this time. I really hope that it was a one-time glitch.
Just tested it and it worked this time. I've no idea what happened with embedding in the previous attempt.
Is it a general imbedding LJ problem or somehow connected with censoring? Did anyone else experience similat things posting a video?

LJ has known, acknowledged problems with the video embedding logic. You cannot edit an entry with an embedded video without re-embedding said video.

Also, embedded video content will not necessarily link to the correct video on f-lists. You have to hide the content behind a cut to ensure that your readers will actually see the correct video.

Both issues are related to how the embedding is implemented. Bottom line, it's broken.
OOOOHHH!!! Better reason to make people put embedded vids behind a freaking CUT, people! LJ has a bit of problem with broken codes here and there, don't they???

Thanks for the info, I am going to pass it along.

Both problems are likely to occur here as well, once the new code which supports embedding is released. Any site using LJ's open source can expect to have these issues, unless they test very thoroughly, and actually know to look for and fix these issues.

I reported the f-list issue to LJ support, and got told "You already know the fix" and that I should just put the videos behind a cut. I finally made IJ my primary journal site when I considered the probability that Russian ownership would improve things like support, etc.
Thank you so much, wyldraven! Now I know why! *hugs*
One can only wonder why LJ put all those man hours to create so hated flagging, instead of fixing this pretty important problem.
Oh, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Not to be unfriendly or whatever, but bullshit. I edited posts with videos in them all the time on LJ and the video URL itself was never ever ever ever stripped out as a result of that. I call bullshit.

Chances are this user simply cut the URL out him/herself unawares and rather than re-edit to check his links and HTML, he/she went posting here instead about OMGNOWLJCENOSORSVIDSWTF.

Mind you I left LJ myself over censorship and SUP and never liked or enjoyed LJ that much in the first place, so don't think my opinion is at all slanted in their favor. But I know bullshit when I see it.
Oh, and I never posted my videos behind a cut, either. The video was usually the only content on those pages besides a word or two from me introducing it, so there was no need IMO to cut those posts. And still I never had the problem you people are talking about. Maybe it is a "known LJ issue" and might become one on IJ as well - whatever, whatever, whatever; point is: this person claimed in the OP that censorship of adult-content videos is in effect on LJ, and as we see, nothing could be further from the truth. Why don't you people check for flames before you call out "fire" next time, alright?
Whoa, you sure like a word "bullshit" a lot. You even use it in your profile. If you read all comments, then you already know that we istablished this issue is not sensorship related. It is related to LJ not adding important info in FAQ, which was the first place I looked after this happened. Wyldraven's post was very helpful and put my mind at ease.

I used a round "embed" symbol in Rich Text editor to imbed that video. I suppose that HTML cleaner got rid of it during saving the entry after changing the post setting to "explicit"

Oh, and I suppose if IJ had the same censorship policies that LJ now supports, you'd make me hide the word "bullshit" behind a cut or get me banned for using it...what is your point, otherwise? Yeah, so I use the word "bullshit" a lot...thanks for pointing it out, Captain Obvious. Maybe I'm just not PG-13 enough for your taste?

My problem with the OP is, you should have established this was not a censorship issue before you wrote about it. You could have started a lot of trouble, all for nothing, all because you use rich text and inserted the wrong character.

I never use the rich text editor, so that must be why I never have a problem.

*But* the actual video embed problem documented on LJ doesn't even involve using the rich text editor, so as it turns out, this problem was completely your own fault.

It's perfectly alright to not know enough HTML to write it yourself, but it is NOT alright to not double check your work in the rich text editor before publshing it, *especially* if you're going to just go on a misleading rant about LJ as a result. There is nothing I hate more than a story that not only just isn't true, but that came about from your own careless actions.

Again...doble-check the facts before you write *anything*, OK? You are a danger to The Truth as we all know it. A tendency to blame anything and anyone besides yourself does not lend you much credibility.