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Firefox news: Livejournal Draws a Line in the Sand.

Includes a hypothetical that is actually making me ponder now - a vampire that has the body of a 14 year old, while being 1400 years old, doing naughty things. Since the objection to underage sexual activity is that their brains aren't developed enough to give informed consent, and theoretically the vampire would be old enough to, presumably... But personally, a 14 year's old body, still creepy. I think to me that's the sort of thing that's okay, but I wouldn't do it myself, and I'd possibly be casting a wary eye on the people who'd jump at the chance (depending on their age, circumstances, etc, obviously). :P

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Well I wrote vampire porn where the vampire [in her 20s]could transform her body [through magical ritual] into a 14/15 year old and submitted it to LJ Abuse to see if it was okay and they said it was [took them only 2 hours to get back to me even] but that is writing, not art. If my drawing skills were better I do an illustration and stick it on my LJ just to see what they would do... but I still need to work on those skills ;)
From what they seem to be saying if it's part of a larger plot underage sex is ok in fiction, just not in art... Of course that implies I understand what they're saying which would be not entirely true.

Is it me or do they make things more confusing every time they post a 'clarification' ?

(I don't think that word means what you think it does LJ) :D
Not just you, Joe. *allie leans tiredly against Joe*. They always confuzzle Allie. And all those comments! Allie isn't the only one, and not the only one who thinks they are idiots. And you know, Allie doesn't like to call people idiots.

*scritches Allie* And then they comment in the comments threads, often without identifying themselves, and 'clarify' the post, saying things that contradict it sometimes.
Yeah but that story was pure sex and blood drinking no plot at all really, though she wasn't really underage ...of course she really isn't anything since she's a fictional character ;)

Yes they do get more and more confusing every time they post and no I really don't think LJ understands the meaning of that word at all!
Someone submitted a Harry Potter fanfic to test the rules. In it Harry spelled himself to be about 14 to engage in kinky sex with his lover. (That was pretty much the entire plot from what the author said). That was fine. When she took out the fact that it was a spell then it wasn't fine.

Interestingly the abuse team couldn't tell her whether it would be fine without the spell in it without seeing the edited version. If they actually had comprehensive guidelines you'd think they could...

So it looks like they're going with the 'I know it when I see it' definition of obscenity.
wow, just wow. I was tempted to rewrite my story taking the vampire elements (but leaving the spell) to see what they would say (there are other squickworthy issues like the fact that the guy in the story was her step-father in life) but then I realized that I just didn't care enough anymore.
Word. I like my account but I am moving everything over here. If I get banned I get banned. I don't care enough any more. If I get banned I'll set up another free lj account (I have several email addresses, I'll just use one I haven't given them before) to read my comms and stop posting fic and icons over there.
I had a PWP with an actual 15 year old and that was apparently okay too. And yet, pondi gets a permaban for a picture that was supposed to go with a story where Harry is 22. It boggles the mind.
It is so crazy! And it would have been nice if they had come out and said that the rules for art would be different before they started suspending artists :(
Or before they started selling permanent accounts.
Careful. Her latest post clarifies that Harry's age in that pic is indeterminate.
It is in the picture, yes. As I understand it you need to do research to actually find that it's connected with a story and that in the story he's 22. It's possible that the sources I had for that understanding are mistaken or confused, though. :P