[info]hiroe in [info]07refugees

Diet Pepsi Max, proud supporter of Russian neo-nazis.

I've been reading the comm for awhile, and so far no one's posted about this here.
Hopefully you know of the beheading video. If not, some links to enlighten:

Radio Free Europe: Controversy Grows Around Russian Beheading Video
NY Times: Beheading and Shooting by Russian Neo-Nazis on Video

Okay. That done, on to the meat of the issue.

Gee, this looks like a screencap from the video:
http://pics.livejournal.com/vik23/pic/0000q6tb/
Hosted right on LJ's own gallery service, no less.
His journal: http://vik23.livejournal.com (plug that url into google's russian->english beta, and see what you get.)

Snagged and (badly)translated from here (emphasis mine):
As has been discovered, a suspect is a 23-year-old Victor Milkov, a student absentee office Adygeyskogo Technological University. He was the National Socialist Party of Russia, and to life earns painting orders. Mr Milkov blogging in "Living Magazine" (Livejournal?) by anyone "vik23." This web diary on August 12 has reference to the spot, and August 13 -- Party statement that it is the armed wing of the National Socialist Society (PDF), together known participate in the "Russian marches and disperse gay parades. Yesterday against Mr. Milkova a criminal case was opened under Article 282 of the Russian Criminal Code (incitement of ethnic hatred), which provides for punishment of up to five years' imprisonment.

...So he's being charged, and his content remains up, untouched? (I can understand the necessity of keeping evidence for prosecution; however, this doesn't necessarily require said evidence remain online for all those hypothetical children to see. HELLO? MCFLY?)

LJ interest search for "white power". Notice all the Russian-language comms. Plug those comm urls' into Google's R>E engine, and let the hate speech and racism flow forth. Where's the outrage? Where's the open letters, the petitions, and all the spotlight?

Oh, right. LJ News just announced back-to-school v-gifts, and gratuitously plugs the shit out of Diet Pepsi Max (even going as far as to offer journal and mood themes!) hoping that everyone will get distracted. Because nothing says "I love you" more than a virtual diet pepsi max!

Dear LJ: Nice to know that stopping HP slash fanart, supporting anorexia, and chugging Pepsi's cock are more important than actually dealing with hardcore hate speech ToS violations. It's not like anyone's died, right?

LJ/6A should just come right out and admit that they're being 'selective' about whom they choose to apply the rules to.



Crossposted to a few other comms; apologies if you see twice.



I *really* wish i could install the russian text plugin, into my head. This language barrier crap needs to go.

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If I hadn't already decided to leave LiveJournal because of their disproportionate and biased actions against women drawing pictures, I think I might have had to leave because they're willing to host *that*.

A fucking drawing of adult male genitalia gets a lifetime ban, but *racially motivated murderers* just have to take their content down?!

I'm so far beyond disgusted I'm going to have to think up a new word.
Because nothing says "I love you" more than a virtual diet pepsi max!

Dear LJ: Nice to know that stopping HP slash fanart, supporting anorexia, and chugging Pepsi's cock are more important


LMAO - you rock - no apologies needed.

(One more reason why freedom of all speech is important - yanno - 'cause like, who will tell the others - about the Pepsi love?)
Thank you.

And yes. I might not agree with what some people want to say, but i will still support their right to say it.

Jeez. if I hadn't already left LJ, I'd be leaving today.
This is the E-Mail I just sent Pepsi.

This is how to contact them yourselves.

Because the thing is - for once, we're not just a bunch of whiners as we've been perceived before a fair few of us fall under Pepsi's target market group.

And "neo nazis" is one of those loaded terms that can make people sit up - if you try and go tell people "Pepsi are involved with a group who are allowing people to host material inciting racial hatred" you'll get a blank look from many. If you say "One of the groups Pepsi sponsors also provides a website for neo-nazis" they will understand.
Let me know if you get a response?
Will do - nothing so far. I don't hold out hope, but there was action at least, so even if it's unrelated completely, we got what we wanted.
ElJay sucks so hard right now, it's not even funny. :(

I was still clinging to my journal over there, mostly because that's where my friends are and the first drama didn't effect me. But now I'm done; I fall into their hated group, and I for one don't want my email address associated with a group that supports them.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :) I wish I could help you with the language barrier thing, but the best advice I can give is to do what I did and take a crash course in Russian.
Members may wish to contact Pepsi at the following link to express their concern that they are associating themselves with a company that permits the promotion of racial hatred on it's website;

http://www.britvic.com/pepsicontact.aspx

(Anonymous)

Apologies if this has been considered (and for posting anon; I'm just passing through), but didn't Livejournal say that they need content to be reported before they can banhammer it?

If this were a case where a report went out and was ignored, I'd be slightly more convinced.
Well, one of the news reports of it somewhere had an actual response from LJ in it, so presumably they're aware of it.

Also, someone commented below about trying to report it.

(Anonymous)

*head+desk*

And I just read this comment, where the abuse team said nothing is wrong with Pokemon pornographic (http://community.livejournal.com/lj_biz/242136.html?thread=14659544#t14659544) images. Why? If Harry Potter "porn" is against the ToS because they might be underage, what about Ash? Is it because it's heterosexual?

-Kayay
I've tried to report him.

Please notice the tried. I got really confused when 'child pornography' came up as an option for 'hate speech', plus I wasn't really sure if I should choose 'illegal activity' or 'illegal content' (the other two options O.o) - I don't even remember what I choose -_-
Well, if the post in obedientgirl's journal is the same thing that got crossposted to genderqueer, though, there *is* child pornography there -- the third image down -- as well as 'hentai' art which falls under LJ's drawings-too definition of child pornography content in that first image. I mean, that girl is pretty clearly a pre-pubescent Pokemon character and another prepubescent Pokemon character is having sex with her. How could someone at LJ Abuse look at that and say it didn't violate their policy?

Yes, it should've been TOSsed on other grounds, because even if LJ for whatever sexist/homophobic reason only considers race and ethnicity grounds for hate speech, it's still a violation of the terms of the TOS to *harass* other users. But the fact that they wouldn't do anything when there were patently multiple violations in the post is... well, just another example of LJ Abuse basing its decisions on bias rather than actual rules.
Any response/reply from LJ about the abuse report?
Nope, nothing :/
This is nauseating and makes me want to cry. They're so concerned with deleting erotic art that they just allow this to sit there happily for everyone to see? That picture makes me want to vomit, and I never (Thank God!) saw the video. It's disgusting, and LJ sucks for letting that image exist.

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