LJ turning against its own defenders?
Does anyone have a screenshot of or remember who posted the top-level content in this thread? As you can see from the responses, the commenter had been defending LJ's actions on the basis that 'fan art depicting UNDERAGED characters in explicit sexual situations is child porn and possibly obscene under US law.'
I doubt it was this comment the user was suspended over, but the fact that someone ostensibly arguing that LJ's inconsistent and baseless 'policy' 'clarifications' are laudable and required in order to comply with the law could themselves be found guilty of a TOS violation, nearly simultaneously with the comment, is surprising.
Depending on the circumstances of the suspension, perhaps this example might even be the wake-up call other LJ users need to get them to to realise that ambiguous and arbitrary policies are a danger to all users, not just some theoretically expendable fringe of fandom.
ETA: Now cross-posted to the fandomtossed community on greatestjournal, here, and the innocence_jihad community on livejournal, here. Thanks to brownbetty for the technical assist.
I doubt it was this comment the user was suspended over, but the fact that someone ostensibly arguing that LJ's inconsistent and baseless 'policy' 'clarifications' are laudable and required in order to comply with the law could themselves be found guilty of a TOS violation, nearly simultaneously with the comment, is surprising.
Depending on the circumstances of the suspension, perhaps this example might even be the wake-up call other LJ users need to get them to to realise that ambiguous and arbitrary policies are a danger to all users, not just some theoretically expendable fringe of fandom.
ETA: Now cross-posted to the fandomtossed community on greatestjournal, here, and the innocence_jihad community on livejournal, here. Thanks to brownbetty for the technical assist.
pheret1
Remember, suspensions only happen after a report is made - which means when someone doesn't like someone else's point of view an easy way to shut them down is to report them for something.
Oh, and harassment is a suspend-able offense, too.
buggery
pheret1
(Anonymous)
Astraea_Trepe from LJ
ardath_rekha
buggery
pheret1
buggery
I know they *don't* use a three-strikes or even a 'habitual wolf-crier' for people who make false abuse reports maliciously -- I'm saying they ought to.
Of course for that to work, we'd have to be able to trust LJ Abuse to differentiate between someone making maliciously false reports, and someone sincerely reporting things they believe are objectionable but which Abuse decides are okay after investigating. The idea of them trying to make that sort of judgment call is more than a little unsettling.
elfwreck
ding
contact the parent author of the thread
buggery
Re: contact the parent author of the thread
ding
maybe a troll
http://community.livejournal.com/lj
buggery
Re: maybe a troll
Good thought, though.
ardath_rekha
Re: maybe a troll
buggery
Re: maybe a troll
I'm still pretty sure the user you're talking about was suspended before I responded to the comment of the now-suspended user I'm talking about, though.
I take it you don't remember the username?
shutsumon
Re: maybe a troll
If he's also a journal thief he deserved the ban stick. Some people do...
ardath_rekha
Re: maybe a troll
ardath_rekha
Re: maybe a troll
buggery
Since I can't seem to edit the post, I'll put this here:
buggery
(If you like the icon, shareable captioned and blank versions are free for the taking.)
thrillkiller
(Anonymous)
(Flexor @ Livejournal)
This is the sort of thing that you can argue over ad infinitum, and in the mean time the real dangerous stuff keeps happening.
(Anonymous)
For once, the abuse team acted right, but then again, he practically handed them his head on a platter. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a sock-puppet account though that could be trolling Pornish. One rule of the net, aside from number 34 that there is porn of it somewhere, is that in cases of WTF happening, except sock-puppetry.
slash_eater
I'm so glad he is suspended!!
buggery
pheret1
He also seems to insinuate that he has some sort of inside knowledge - like a friend on the Abuse Team or who is on staff with LJ, I think.
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From: burr86
Date: Mon Jul 23 01:18:07 2007
Pressing issues indeed! Thanks for the laugh. :)
To: burr86
From: culturedgoat
Date: Tue Aug 7 16:55:15 2007
Hey man - I know what it's like to be in a situation where you can't do right for doing wrong. Don't let the mean people get you down. They've already made their minds up, and neither God nor man nor JK Rowling is going to change it. Know that there are some people here who are on your side, rooting for you, who understand that these tribulations have been born out of good intentions.
To quote the good Doctor, Hunter S. Thompson: Don't take any guff from these swine.
I've never liked the dark stuff, but that's the only beer they have here. Here's one on me.
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Abe sent a vgift back in July -- and since customers who posted their birthdays in a certain biz post were allegedly going to get vgifts from LJ staff, it's entirely possible something like that is all the connection that exists between the two LJs.
A user doesn't have to have internet access in order for another user to send them a vgift.
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