[info]elfwreck in [info]07refugees

Could be the start of Strikethrough 3.0

shota is the target this time.
http://community.livejournal.com/ljspeaks/7830.html?view=254358#t254358
Dear LiveJournal user thefacelessevil,

We are contacting you because we have received multiple reports of material in violation of our policies in the 'shota' community, which you are the maintainer of. LiveJournal's policies do not permit images (including cartoon-like artwork) which depict minors engaged in graphic, sexually explicit conduct.

As maintainer of a community, it is your responsibility to ensure that content meeting this description is not present within the community. Please monitor your community and ensure it stays within the guidelines of this policy. Thank you.

Regards,
Brian
LiveJournal Abuse Prevention Team

I opened a support request:
http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=836059& auth= 549w (Iiinteresting changes they've made in security... I can only open it when logged out.)
At http://community.livejournal.com/ljspeaks/7830.html?view=254358#t254358 it's mentioned that "LiveJournal's policies do not permit images (including cartoon-like artwork) which depict minors engaged in graphic, sexually explicit conduct."

Where is this policy available? I cannot find it, nor a link to it, in the TOS or FAQ.

(I also note that the community in question does not post pictures of minors engaged in sexual acts, because it posts pictures of fictional characters only, who are never minors. Minors are human beings under 18 years of age.)
Gee, when IS that policy document going to be released to THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW IT?

Posted on Jan. 21st, 2008 at 03:33 pm | | Leave a comment | Add to Memories | Tell a Friend

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[info]antiaol

Alright, when I'm starving to death as I am now I can't think straight so I write factually incorrect things - which I don't like doing - so I just looked up the applicable law on this:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000231----000-.html

...and according to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act#_note-0

...that law was struck down in 2004 and a permanent injunction against it was declared in March 2007, so whatever I was reading about the law last night must have been old/outdated and either I didn't know that or else I forgot, because I started to say something different here but changed my mind and deleted the comment...
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 02:52 am (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]dogemperor

...and yet the "Babywise" and "trainupachild" communities *still* exist on LJ (for that matter, there are probably promoters of Bill Gothard's crap on LJ) and apparently are perfectly okay according to LJ, despite RL laws against RL abuse of children (and the two communities in question are practically communities explicitly instructing parents on methods of "Bible-based" baby beating that have led to deaths of both children and other people).
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 04:02 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]littlegirllover

Lol..well dangit, that's it! - these people needa create a Bible-based shota group.
Posted on Jan. 23rd, 2008 02:30 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]dogemperor

Also, in regards to the COPA law--it was struck down fairly recently, so not all sources are going to have updated, most likely. (FWIW, I know when I was staffing at ACen in 2005, shota and lolicon were seen as enough of a grey area that it was frowned upon--then again, the strikedown of the COPA sections that could have made shota and lolicon potentially illegal was being appealed at the time, and the con couldn't take the legal risk if someone decided to sue.)
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 04:08 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]antiaol

The COPA law gets reviewed again sometime this year, doesn't it? (Read that online recently, too.) This is not over yet, believe me.
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 06:36 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]dogemperor

Oh, I'm *sure* it isn't over by any means...but then again, with stuff like this, it never really *is* over :P "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" and all that.
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 07:28 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]antiaol

Eternal viligance won't do us any good once they come up with stricter/more-constrictive laws and go batshit on us enforcing them, besides. Sorry. I used to believe what you're saying, but I'm seeing privacy and literally *thought* invasions on so many fronts nowadays that I don't think we, as a people, stand a chance anymore, at least not in the US or England. Both are becoming surveillance societies more and more each day, and the point of all society will soon be just to watch, judge, monitor, and of course control others with less power and say than you, down to the thought-by-thought level if possible. It's over, man. We haven't seen all of it yet, not even a tiny slice of what's to come, and personally, I don't really want to, either.
Posted on Jan. 22nd, 2008 07:44 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]shadowstar

You sure you don't want to?

Look what Microsoft is patenting these days...

Effing scary.
Posted on Jan. 23rd, 2008 05:50 am (UTC) | | Parent | Reply