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On fandom migration, safe spaces and keeping in touch with your flist

I hope this post is within the community rules, if not, my sincere apologies.

This is the summary of the chat about future possibilites that could be offered by squidge.org, basically, some ideas that could be good to be incorporated into some kind of a fannish hub/fannish social networking base. So, if you're interested, please check it out, comment, there will probably be another chat some time soon as far as I'm aware.
For me, this project looks appealing for the following reasons: I was and to a big extent, still am, basically a reader/lurker. My participation in any other fandom activities would likely never had come to pass if it wasn't for the LJ with it's easy comment feature and the possibility to collect people's blogs on the flist. Seeing how there are several fanmade projects in the works (Fanarchive, Scribblit, Fandom_flies etc.) and people move to different blogging services like Journalfen or Insanejournal or Greatestjournal or incorporate blogs within their own websites, I'm kinda confident in that authors will find their new safe spaces to display their creations. I'd love a place that would make it easy for readers to follow them - a kind of all-in-one project that could host content, but also could serve just as an linking hub with a profile page, an address book etc. So, for me the squidge project sounds very appealing. What do you think?

Comments

Here's a solution that lacks blogging capabilities (and archiving, but there's already so many places to archive (including the eventual Fanarchive) but has everything else (and more), and it's already up and running:

FanHistory.com coupled with FanworksFinder.com

In listings on FanworksFinder, the authors and fandoms fields link (automatically) to entries on FanHistory.com--you just click on the gray info icon next to the author or fandom link to go to the FanHistory.com page. If you follow the link and find out that an entry doesn't already exist for that author or fandom, FanHistory.com is a wiki (as is FanworksFinder.com)--anyone can create and/or edit an entry.

Links can also be added on FanHistory.com listings to pull up listings on FanworksFinder. The external links section on my entry shows an example of this:
http://www.fanhistory.com/index.php/ScrewTheDaisies#External_links

(Searching on FanworksFinder.com seems to trip some people up. I'm putting together a more traditional search interface for those who need it, but you can do quite a lot with the current search system (which we'll still be keeping) if you refer to the search tips page.)

Improvements are still being made to both sites to make them more useful and usable.
I'm aware of both these projects and I think they're awesome; the only feature I miss is interactivity within the community in discussion terms. I mean that in a blog or community there were persons A and B and c answering and discussing in the coments, and they could all respond to each other at the same place. Now, with people scattering, A will answer on one site, B in another - this kind of 'friendsfriends' interconnectedness is lost in the sense of more direct communication.
I adore fannis wikis, and archives, and I like delicious to mark all those places, but for interaction between people they're not so good:(, and this is one thing I'd hope to get from the squidge project.
Neither FanWorksFinder nor FanHistory.Com are necessarily for interaction but for aggregating information so you can find people, find authors to interact with them. And FanWorksFinder does allow a certain degree of interaction with the onsite story reviews, where you can chat with readers about the story. I kind of really enjoy that possibility because readers can sometimes have totally different takes on things than an author and how they interact with each other versus how they interact with an author is different.

That said, for the squidge project, I would highly encourage you and people involved with it to reach out to the MySpace, Quizilla, FaceBook, mailing list, MSN, EZBoard based fandoms. Some of them are HUGE! and MASSIVE! and HUGE! and they can bring in a larger audience which could help ensure success.

To give an idea of their size, this chart (also here gives an idea of just how big based on the size of larger Role Playing groups on those servers. (Admittedly, MySpace looks smaller based on that sample but it has truly huge groups. The largest Smallville group has about 24,000 members.)
Thank you! I'll pass the information on.
You're welcome.

Fan History

:-D

This is the person template on FanHistory.Com which makes it super easy to copy and paste to a page about yourself or some one else. (Lots of people already have pages about themselves</a> which can make some of that easier.) Then just fill in the information, using the template as a guide.

I added an extension so you can easily say add the RSS feeds of the title of your posts appear on your page so if you're in ten different spots, people can see, based on those RSS feeds, where you're updating. This is an example of that.

On a random note, the nice thing about FanWorksFinder that I like is that yeah, it allows stories from everywhere so if you like FanFiction.Net, cannot stand LiveJournal for posting, you can do that... and not worry about not having your stories accessible to that LiveJournal audience. It also makes LiveJournal stories easy to find, as they frequently get pushed down an author's blog, thus making them hard to find. And it allows older better fan works to get remembered because of the rec feature.

Re: Fan History

I added an extension so you can easily say add the RSS feeds

Oh hey--that's neat.

Re: Fan History

:) I've been playing with some other extensions to see what I can get work. The RSS one is nice and trying to figure out how to integrate it in on a few pages. That's the one annoying thing about a wiki. Lots of manual editing. :(

That did include my FanWorksFinder RSS feed but feh. :/ No new stories I think so it doesn't show any more there. It had about ten on it last night.
I just want to say this is effin' exciting. Squidge was always ahead of the curve in terms of linking internet fans, and I'm totally pleased they're stepping up now too.

Also, dude, has it been a decade already?!
I really really hope something good comes out of it!
Also, feel free to spread the information, please, and hop in with suggestions.