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Hank McCoy ([info]starsandgarters) wrote in [info]incompletedata,
@ 2017-07-14 14:27:00

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People of the Wittgenstein,

Hopefully many of you may remember the post that Sharon Carter (the elder) made in the aftermath of the Circus riot about our civic responsibilities. In the two weeks since we have been back at the compound, a small group of us have been stationed in the library, working on drafting a document assuring and defining our rights as citizens (not merely specimens) of this Wittgenstein collective.

We affirm, in brief: a right to assembly and self governance, a right to freedom from violence, discrimination or harassment, a right to freedom of speech, a right to property, and a right to freedom from degrading conditions, and an obligation to assuring a minimum standard of care and safety for all who are brought here. We maintain the sanctity of life for all specimens as our highest primary objective.

We propose a representative democracy comprised of a federation of "Districts" comprised of at least five people. This allows everyone's primary points of contact to be largely those with whom they would interact in any case, however, it also creates both a Wittgenstein Council and Jury comprised of elected representatives from each District which can address concerns that face the entire group, see to impartial, empathetic handling of specimen-on-specimen crime.

Finally, while at present we have the capacity to negotiate only amongst ourselves, it is our hope that success in this endeavor may give us some collective bargaining power with our scientists.

In any case, we have drafted a preliminary Constitution based on a variety of national Constitutions as well as drawing heavily from Prisoners' Rights theory, but it is only a preliminary document. We would like to open this up to all specimens for comment, suggestion, and revision in the interest of fairness and to capitalize on the assembled collective political expertise here.

Yours sincerely
Hank McCoy
Sharon Carter
Steve Rogers
Charles Xavier



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[info]churning
2017-07-14 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I would personally do everything in my power to keep them safe in whatever setting we're in. It was my single-minded goal during the riots at the circus, not just our kids, but the other kids too - before I knew what they were. And even then, I don't think my conscience could've let me [...]

I don't know much about the law, but in terms of education, I'm an engineer - a nuclear fusion engineer - so I could cover math, science, stuff like reading too probably. I'm pretty good with kids and they seem to take to me well.

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[info]hellfire
2017-07-14 11:32 pm UTC (link)
A nuclear fusion engineer is an impressive career.

I did help run a few different organisations focused on the education of children, I'm sure with your help we'd be able to scrub together some kind of travelling fast and loose means of schooling.

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[info]churning
2017-07-14 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. I mean, I mostly just slung tools around cause my friend Naomi was the head engineer and, to be fair, she was better at it and had two PhDs so was more qualified and I was always happy to defer to her on, well, everything actually.

I'd love to help with that, really. I didn't have any formal education, myself. I was sort of homeschooled, then shoved into my apprenticeship training when I was 15 or 16 or whatever, but I'm pretty good with the few things I do know. So if you want to take point, I'm happy to follow.

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[info]hellfire
2017-07-15 04:00 am UTC (link)
Well, sometimes the best education is by no means formal nor traditional. If you're good at what you do, I would think that's a testament to how well you were taught.

And I think then - that the three of us are advocating for a section in the Constitution specifically regarding the welfare and education of anyone under the age of - what - eighteen? Perhaps with mandatory guardianship cut-off at fifteen, but still encouraged?

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[info]churning
2017-07-15 06:07 am UTC (link)
I've had amazing teachers my whole life, from my old lady and the girls I've worked with to my instructors and my captains and superiors. I take every chance I get to be better than I was yesterday.

Eighteen sounds fair. That's pretty standard, during this time, isn't it? It's younger where Cap'n and I are from, but I think if we cut off mandatory guardianship at fifteen, then that splits the difference.

What are your thoughts about how to handle the teenagers in regards to education? Do people over a certain age have the right to opt-out or, uh, what's it called - unschooling? Independent study? I'm for it, obviously, considering my own history but I defer to the experts.

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[info]airlock
2017-07-14 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Well, hopefully the situation won't arise where we're called upon to hurt the children not in our group, but it definitely seems as though actively making sure they have food, shelter, and safety, perhaps even before the adults here, is the way to go.

My teaching experience is primarily in younger children, but I do have experienced with more mixed classrooms like we'd have.

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[info]churning
2017-07-14 11:42 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I- I couldn't do that. Hurt any sort of little ones, I mean. I'd rather cut off my own leg. But I'm all for looking after the kids first. It's the right thing to do.

I think I'll let you ladies take the lead on this one, then, since you've got experience, and you just tell me where you need me and what to do and I'll be there.

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