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Hank McCoy ([info]starsandgarters) wrote in [info]incompletedata,
@ 2017-07-14 14:27:00

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People of the Wittgenstein,

Hopefully many of you may remember the post that Sharon Carter (the elder) made in the aftermath of the Circus riot about our civic responsibilities. In the two weeks since we have been back at the compound, a small group of us have been stationed in the library, working on drafting a document assuring and defining our rights as citizens (not merely specimens) of this Wittgenstein collective.

We affirm, in brief: a right to assembly and self governance, a right to freedom from violence, discrimination or harassment, a right to freedom of speech, a right to property, and a right to freedom from degrading conditions, and an obligation to assuring a minimum standard of care and safety for all who are brought here. We maintain the sanctity of life for all specimens as our highest primary objective.

We propose a representative democracy comprised of a federation of "Districts" comprised of at least five people. This allows everyone's primary points of contact to be largely those with whom they would interact in any case, however, it also creates both a Wittgenstein Council and Jury comprised of elected representatives from each District which can address concerns that face the entire group, see to impartial, empathetic handling of specimen-on-specimen crime.

Finally, while at present we have the capacity to negotiate only amongst ourselves, it is our hope that success in this endeavor may give us some collective bargaining power with our scientists.

In any case, we have drafted a preliminary Constitution based on a variety of national Constitutions as well as drawing heavily from Prisoners' Rights theory, but it is only a preliminary document. We would like to open this up to all specimens for comment, suggestion, and revision in the interest of fairness and to capitalize on the assembled collective political expertise here.

Yours sincerely
Hank McCoy
Sharon Carter
Steve Rogers
Charles Xavier



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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-14 09:06 pm UTC (link)
If one takes a step back, yes, but I think for the present at least we need something that operates within the confines of our situation.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-15 01:40 am UTC (link)
I'd like to know what sort of legislature these scientists have for treatment of their subjects. Do they have their own version of the Belmont Report?

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-15 01:46 am UTC (link)
We've been unable to ascertain under exactly what sort of research ethical protocol they're operating. They seem willing to interact with us to a point, but don't answer many questions about our objectives, methods, or experimental parameters.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-15 03:24 am UTC (link)
So far, I'm not liking that. That Report and the subsequent law states that human subjects are to be informed on all points of their experiment. A good majority of them.

It seems they're not adhering to those rules. Has anyone seen these scientists, besides our arrival?

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-15 05:48 am UTC (link)
I've heard Hotel is in his block every morning and went on their 18 hour forced march with them. November is sometimes in his block's common areas. I don't know much about the other three.

Mike commented on Sharon's original post.

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[info]anatombomb
2017-07-15 05:50 am UTC (link)
Four. Don't forget their doctor, Alfa.

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-15 05:57 am UTC (link)
Has anyone actually seen her since arrival?

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[info]anatombomb
2017-07-15 05:59 am UTC (link)
Not that I know of, but she shouldn't be forgotten.

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-15 06:03 am UTC (link)
That's true. We wouldn't want to alienate the medical staff. That's where things get weird--er than playing circus detective.

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[info]anatombomb
2017-07-15 06:05 am UTC (link)
Indeed they do.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-16 12:20 am UTC (link)
An 18 hour forced march?

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-16 12:26 am UTC (link)
What it sounds like.

It was before I got here, but prior to this we were at a 1930s-style circus. Apparently all of Hotel block was punished because one person refused to play along in the last scenario and had to walk between towns.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-16 12:35 am UTC (link)
There are children in that block.

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-16 02:37 am UTC (link)
There are. And that's part of why we need to be discussing these matters.

I think some people had their eye on the kids through it though.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-16 02:43 am UTC (link)
I'm glad that people were looking out for them. There should definitely be a whole section devoted to them.

Has anyone ever escaped, to your knowledge?

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-16 02:46 am UTC (link)
I think the plan is to include one in the next draft.

I've only been here about a month, I think in general, this group has only been here for about 3 months. But the scientists seem to have a pretty tight control over us.

They can apparently neutralize powers.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-16 02:48 am UTC (link)
This just keeps getting better and better.

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[info]starsandgarters
2017-07-16 02:48 am UTC (link)
It's so far not been terrible here, unless you count the only wine being Trump wine.

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[info]shulkie
2017-07-16 03:29 am UTC (link)
That's it. I wanna go home. Now.

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