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cyberghostface (cyberghostface) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-13 12:34:00

Current mood:	apathetic
Entry tags:	char: chameleon/dmitri smerdyakov, char: green goblin/harry osborn, char: mary jane watson, char: spider-man/peter parker, creator: barry kitson, creator: fred van lente, creator: j.m. dematteis, creator: luke ross, title: amazing spider-man

Amazing Spider-Man #602

So basically, the Chameleon's back in town. Now he's sadistically dipping people into acid after taking their identities away from them. He wants to infilitrate Mayor Jonah's inner circle, so he kidnaps Peter Parker (who's working for Jonah at the moment.)

Meanwhile, Chameleon is mimicking Peter's voice while spraying him in the face with some sort of adhesive(?) that makes a mask out of the face.

Anyone else getting a feeling of déjà vu?

And then there's Paul Jenkins' Webspinners arc where Chameleon went after MJ as Pete. So this makes it, what, the third time this has happened?

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thatnickguy
2009-08-13 05:10 pm UTC (link)

No no no, this is different, you see. Now, Chameleon bathes people in acid! He's EXXXXXTREME! (had to throw some extra X's in there, just to be safe). He's stolen Peter's identity...again. He's going after MJ...again! Maybe he'll profess his love for Peter...again!

Just further proof that as much things change, as much things stay the same. Sure am glad we got Peter making a deal with the devil to destory his marriage, so we can get these new, exciting stories like the Chameleon taking his identity and going after MJ.

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	punishermax 2009-08-13 05:14 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah because very violent acts and deaths never ever ever occured in Spider-Man before OMD. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cyberghostface 2009-08-13 05:17 pm UTC (link)
	The stuff in BND has been more graphic than usual. I.E. the new Vulture vomiting acid and disemboweling people and eating their entrails. And I don't recall Chameleon dipping people into acid before, either. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

punishermax
2009-08-13 05:19 pm UTC (link)

Venom's first introduction included him throwing a tanker full of animal offal all over Peter, murdering a police officer by suffocation and we don't even see the Vulture rip anyone's entrails out, it's all done off panel if I recall right.

It's just a bit unfair to blame OND for this though, I mean comics in general have been more graphic these days it's the general trend now, it's not just Spiderman.

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cyberghostface
2009-08-13 05:31 pm UTC (link)

The Venom scenes were violent but *not* overtly gory.

As for the Vulture scene...we see enough. The entrails are noticeable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/CyberGhostface/Spider-Man593019.jpg

And comics have been more graphic nowadays, but there's no excuse for ASM given its All Ages rating and Joephisto's constant claims that they're tailored for kids and meant to reach a younger audience. If it had a T/T+ rating it would be another matter entirely.

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punishermax
2009-08-13 05:35 pm UTC (link)

Yeah I'll concede that the Vulture was a bit much, he was probably one of my least favorite parts of Spider0Man lately, but let's be honest here is it really THAT violent? The whole rating system seems arbitrary and barely noticable anyway, the only major things you could tell is the regular stuff is tame and the MAX stuff isn't

But my major point is that OMD didn't usher in violent content in Spiderman, it's always been there, I mean, Green Goblin was impaled to death!

It just seems that whenever something is bad in a Spiderman book is always gets tossed onto the "OMD" problem pile.

	arilou_skiff 2009-08-13 06:20 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, precisely. Same thing here. The only thing I'm hoping is that they actually get to do some fun stories before returning things as they were (which will happen sooner or later) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	skalja 2009-08-13 06:57 pm UTC (link)
	I ... I'm the only person who thinks that Gwen Stacy sleeping with Norman Osborn makes sense, aren't I? hangs head Otherwise -- yeah, pretty much. Let's not forget that the storyline after Red-Headed Stranger is called ... Back in Black Cat! There are, ahem, no boundaries to taste, apparently. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cyberghostface 2009-08-13 07:03 pm UTC (link)
	No, you aren't alone. I wasn't bothered with the Gwen/Norman affair so much as how the overall story was handled. I'd rather see more of the events that lead up to the encounter instead of just seeing the two twins fight Peter. But Gwen sleeping with Norman in of itself I don't have a problem with. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	skalja 2009-08-13 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	Well, they had to be grown-ups, otherwise Peter would have been saddled with kids! It's not like Gwen has a loving and supportive uncle and cousins who've been previously introduced or anything, right? Right. (Reply to this) (Parent)