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heartless guttersnipe ([info]parsimonia) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-02 22:30:00

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Entry tags:char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: booster gold/michael jon carter, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, publisher: dc comics, title: booster gold

Booster Gold #25
Warning: this post contains long-winded ranting.



A bit of background for the uninformed:

This issue has Booster sneaking back into the Batcave to once again try and retrieve the photos of him at the scene of the Joker shooting Barbara Gordon. Bruce!Batman was aware of what happened and of Booster's attempt at preventing the shooting, but now that Bruce is gone, Rip advises him to get them out of the Batcave so that no one else knows, lest it mess up the timeline somehow.

A couple issues back he tried to get them out, but was caught by Dick, and then Dick disappeared because Black Beetle messed with the timeline ensuring that Dick got killed off when he was still Robin and working with the Teen Titans. After fixing that situation, he tries again by arriving five minutes earlier than the last time he went there. This time, however, he's caught by Damian!Robin, who is quickly followed by Dick!Batman. Alfred is all "Oh hey Booster, s'up?*" and brings refreshments.

*Except, you know, in Alfred-speak.



It's bad enough that the issue where Booster tries to prevent Barbara's shooting just uses her as a prop for the story, and that present-day!Barbara has yet to be informed. (I like to think that Bruce would have told her what Booster did, right after he told Booster that he knew about it, but I doubt we'll actually see that as canon. And actually, this issue would have been perfect timing for Babs to catch Booster in the cave and confront him on what happened, given that she's set up shop there now. She could yell and tell him to not mess around in her past without her permission, then be sympathetic and say she was sorry he went to all that effort for her, and then they could have bonded over missing Ted.) But I find it especially irritating how the photos of the shooting keep getting thrown around so lightly.

Those photos hold such pain and humiliation for Barbara. Not only because of what the Joker did to her, but because their entire purpose was to cause pain to her loved ones.

Given that the photographs hold that kind of awful power, it would make sense that access to them would be severely restricted, and that only four people (excepting the Joker and his goons) would have ever seen them prior to Booster's encounter. (I would think that Bruce would have made them a little bit harder to find than just sitting in an unlocked filing cabinet out in the open in the cave.) Commissioner Gordon saw them because the Joker subjected him to them. I'm guessing that Barbara would have seen them at some point, but it's possible that she chose not to look at them. Harvey Bullock was the detective on the case so he would have seen them, and Bruce would have seen them as he was also on the case in theory, and he apparently elected to store and protect the photos so that they don't run the risk of ever falling into the wrong hands.

So, given all of that, it is logical to assume that Dick Grayson has never seen the photos before this time. Maybe Babs has described the experience in great detail to Dick in the past, but Babs would absolutely not want her friend (who cares a great deal about her and vice versa, who also happens to be her ex-boyfriend/fiancé) to see those photos of her.

As I said above, the entire point of those photos was to cause pain and humiliation for Barbara and people who cared about her*. It would be horribly painful for Dick to see them, and the same goes for Babs, and she wouldn't want him to see that way either, for both their sakes.

*Although really, it was not about Babs in the first place, hence The Killing Joke being a classic case of fridging.

So, yeah. That bugs me. Anyways, onward:




Um, okay. Look, I like the idea of Dick and Booster bonding and becoming pals as much as the next gal ("they have the two best butts in the DCU: together, they fight crime!"), but that last panel? They are essentially smiling and toasting their glasses over the fact that nothing can be done to prevent all the horrible things that the Joker has done (not to mention all the deaths in WWII).

It's one thing to acknowledge the permanence of solidified time (i.e., "you can't change the past"), but it comes off as more than a little callous to be so light-hearted about it, considering the events they're discussing. The millions of people killed because of Hitler, the Joker beating and blowing up Jason Todd, shooting and paralysing Barbara Gordon, torturing her father, murdering Sarah Essen (not to mention all the random unnamed Gothamites who have also been his victims), and all the hell that the Joker has put Bruce and Dick and everyone in the extended Bat-family through over the years. That is kind of what you're toasting over, boys.

*sigh* If it weren't for the sheer awesomeness in the Blue Beetle story in the back, I would have been annoyed that I bought this issue.



Okay, nothing to really rant about this, I just didn't expect what we saw on the following page.



I always picture the Graysons as living in a cozy little trailer at the circus, not living in a spacious suburban house, so I was kind of misdirected and assumed that we would see Dick as a kid at Wayne Manor (especially in light of feeling lost in training Damian and whatnot). Ah well, it was a nice thought, if somewhat awkwardly executed.


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[info]manofbats
2009-11-03 06:00 am UTC (link)
He's not being as cold and clinical as he should be. I would say he's showing restrain because the kid and Booster are there. Most of the Batfamily probably considers this a private matter.

I certainly wouldn't grieve, cry, or lash out in anger in front of someone I barely know. I would hold strong and wait for a private moment with someone close to let it out.

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[info]parsimonia
2009-11-03 06:20 am UTC (link)
I'm not saying the two should have a sobfest together, but anyone who knows or cares at least a little bit about Barbara would not react neutrally to those photos. Booster was distraught as hell when he unsuccessfully tried to prevent the shooting and had to watch her get shot and be tortured over and over again.

And they certainly wouldn't smile as they toast over the fact that the past can't be changed.

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[info]manofbats
2009-11-03 06:23 am UTC (link)
I just thought it was a toast and smile to show mutual respect. Dick's not the kind of to learn something like that and then send Booster on his marry way. I imagine he has a great deal of respect for Booster knowing that he did everything he could to save Babs.

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[info]parsimonia
2009-11-03 06:30 am UTC (link)
Sure, and their mutual respect is expressed here, but they are still toasting over the fact that they can't prevent all the harm the Joker has done with a smile.

I understand and appreciate that it was not the intention of Jurgans to make Booster and Dick seem callous and completely oblivious and disrespectful, but that's the way it comes off, regardless of what was intended.

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[info]manofbats
2009-11-03 06:33 am UTC (link)
Didn't come off that way to me. I just see Dick Grayson toasting a new friend and an equal.

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[info]parsimonia
2009-11-03 07:04 am UTC (link)
Yes, and I have a different interpretation.

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Well coming from a third party...
(Anonymous)
2009-11-03 07:30 am UTC (link)
I didn't see it as them laughing happily over not being able to change the past. Just being ironic.

Though that was my second take on it. My first was that they were seriously flirting with each other. Seriously take a look at that panel without the rest of it and tell me if I'm the only one who sees it,

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Re: Well coming from a third party...
[info]parsimonia
2009-11-03 07:34 am UTC (link)
Yeah, them making out in this comic wouldn't be entirely out of place.

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Re: Well coming from a third party...
[info]icon_uk
2009-11-03 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Well, a couple fo posts back manofbats DID say "Dick's not the kind of to learn something like that and then send Booster on his marry way"

I think it's a little soon to discuss marriage, but they would look cute together, they'd have matching high collared costumes to wear to the the wedding...

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Re: Well coming from a third party...
[info]parsimonia
2009-11-03 10:13 pm UTC (link)
XD

Oh, Icon, you're my favourite.

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