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jelly_ace (jelly_ace) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-15 19:42:00

Current mood:	sleepy
Entry tags:	char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, publisher: dc comics, theme: dcau, title: batman and robin adventures, title: batman the animated series

When Bats was human...

This is why I love the B:TAS Bruce Wayne/Batman, horrible brown suit nonwithstanding:

From Robin's Reckoning:
Bruce comforts(!) Dick when Dick feels guilty about not stopping Tony Zucko from killing his parents.
Bruce: I know it must be very difficult.
Dick: If only I could have stopped him! I saw him coming out of the tent! I knew he didn't belong there!
Bruce: I know. You keep thinking, If only I had done something differently. If only I could have... warned them. But there isn't anything you could have done. There isn't anything either of us could have done.
Dick: Your mom and dad? Does the hurt ever go away?
Bruce: I wish I could say yes. But it will get better in time. For you. That I promise.

From Baby Doll:
Bats confronts a very sorry Mary Dahl, who kidnapped her previous cast mates from a popular TV show that made her a star in order to make a new one and reclaim her lost fame.
"I didn't mean to."

It was kinda hard associating this Bats with the Batgod/Batdick that was later in the JL, JLU, and TNBA. And I would think this Bats WOULDN'T HAVE INDULGED IN AN ICKY AND INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH BABS!!! Sorry, that particular bit in Batman Beyond and in the Mystery of the Batwoman really really annoyed me.

In a more lighter note (and to make things legal):

"Fanhandling" should definitely be in the S_D slogan.

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parsimonia
2009-08-15 01:50 pm UTC (link)

That is a really nice scene from Robin's Reckoning. But I'd say there were still lots of moments in the later DCAU series that showed his non-dickery.

Like that episode with the Flush gang in JLU, and he's told he has to kill the little girl in order to save everyone. So what does he do? He let's her know what's happening, and as she's going to die anyway, he holds her hand and sits with her until the end.

Bat-dickery and Bat-loveliness go hand-in-hand, IMO, but the dickery level rising over the years makes sense for DCAU Batman. It seems an unavoidable trajectory somehow, what with the way his relationship with Dick evolved over the years. (And in Batman Beyond, you've got all the Return of the Joker business to factor into all his bitterness and push-people-away-ness.)

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	sherkahn 2009-08-15 02:12 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, that one sends many a manly tear down my face. DCAU nailed it. Grab the hankies, kids. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sherkahn 2009-08-15 02:14 pm UTC (link)
	Woops, didn't take. One more time, with URL link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHHsdE_oQg (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	savok 2009-08-15 02:21 pm UTC (link)
	That and the Return of the Joker flashback bit are the two greatest Batman scenes in the DCAU. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sir_razorback 2009-08-15 10:41 pm UTC (link)
	How would you rate this, then? Batman meets Batman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PETk8eBbfN0&feature=related (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	runespoor7 2009-08-15 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	Porn. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	parsimonia 2009-08-19 04:02 am UTC (link)
	Damn. Gets me every time! sniffle (Reply to this) (Parent)

	savok 2009-08-15 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	Exactly. What happened to Tim basically broke him, he didn't start to heal until Terry came along, thus we end up with the scene at end of Return of the Joker. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jelly_ace 2009-08-15 03:06 pm UTC (link)
	Although that is logical, that it seems to be an "unavoidable trajectory", bear in mind that this scene was supposed to be what, around a decade ago from their continuity? So in ten years of crimefighting, Batman was still at home with his Bruce side and managed to have a pretty good relationship with Robin, and was a moderately well-adjusted hero. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

parsimonia
2009-08-15 03:15 pm UTC (link)

Right, but there was still conflict. Robin's later years, no matter what medium, always seem to involve a conflicted relationship with Batman, and even in the non-flashback bits of Robin's Reckoning, you've got Batman being a dick in that acts-like-a-dick-but-it's-all-because-he-cares kind of way.

He doesn't tell Dick what's going on with Zucco, and just shuts him out, leaving Dick to get all pissed and rebellious. That's what I mean about Bat-dickery going hand-in-hand with what I have now decided I like to call "Bat-loveliness".

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	cmdr_zoom 2009-08-15 06:13 pm UTC (link)
	So much motto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-08-18 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	Bruce with Ace of the RFG, making sure that the last few minutes of life of a scared little girl has won't be spent alone is possibly my favourite DCAU moment. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	parsimonia 2009-08-19 03:42 am UTC (link)
	And now that I've brought it up, I'm wracking my brains trying to remember which episode it's from. But yes, definitely one of my favourite moments too. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-08-19 07:06 am UTC (link)
	It's in "Epilogue" the very last episode of JLU (and thus the last episode of the "original" DCAU... sort of) (Reply to this) (Parent)

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