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Tweak says, "He's All I Want"

claudie (flirting with modernism) (lipsofpoison) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-23 15:55:00

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char: alfred pennyworth, char: aqualad/tempest/garth, char: argent/toni monetti, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: damage/grant emerson, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: speedy/red arrow/roy harper, char: starfire/koriand'r, char: wonder girl/troia/donna troy, creator: brian k. vaughan, creator: devin grayson, publisher: dc comics, title: titans

The Titans #14
In the previous issue, Nightwing questioned peoples commitments to the team and told anyone who didn't want to commit to leave, causing Jesse to do so. He then feels over-stressed and heads back to Gotham for advice from his old mentor, so when danger strikes, Garth takes over the leadership role.

I think these are fun because you get to see the Titans rooms inside the tower. I love Toni's stuffed toys and Grant's room having all these archer themes and being a total wreck (which, at first, made me think it was Roys room), Kory being very stylish and feminine and Roy's little room sign. Even if that Ollie picture is freaky.

Followed by Dick doing something borderline dickery, but very self aware. That said, I love Dick's room having a Nightwing symbol.

I will be the first to admit that I wasn't bothered about Aqualad/Tempest, but I think one of the best things about this is it highlights that he can be very capable despite having a bad rep, while understanding the position Dick is so often put in.

So now it's off to Gotham, with Dick proving again that he is the bat who will ask for help if he needs it - though only from certain people.

Anyway, fight goes down, everyone but Garth gets out and there's general freaking out. Cue compliments about him and him being able to laugh at himself.

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lipsofpoison
2009-06-23 05:28 pm UTC (link)

I'm going to have to start doing 'not safe for icon_uk' warnings at this rate! I'm sure one day I'll find something you like. It's going to be my scans_daily goal.

Garth has just found out he's going to die, so I took it to mean he panicked, considering how much crap they all went through the previous issue.

It's Arsenal. Roy is not what you would call careful in The Titans series - at all. He doesn't seem to have any security for anything in it. I'd say it was OOC but it shows up in Green Arrow too, so I guess it's just a quirk. As for disrepect? Again, it's Roy. The guys disrepects Batman. Garth never stood a chance.

It does get said earlier in the issue that this was something Garth had to do alone, so in context, I can see why that's their instant thought, though Roy's reaction irritated me because with the rest, I can see them going to look, but I agree it feels very forced.

Oh, Dick's love life. While I have not read the Huntress business, I can see why he might be attracted to her. I'll have to see if I can find it, to see if I really dislike it. I rather liked Jesse and Dick's relationship (though in a platonic way) and while the babbling bothered, I like that he went to Bruce and given the timing of this being fairly early in Nightwing, I can see his insecurities showing which I find fine. And he and Clancy did go on a date fairly recently at this point and I would count it simply for the timing of the issue. Dick does have a lot of female friends but looking at his early Nightwing stuff, he also tends to find a lot of them attractive, which I suppose is fairly normal.

The lack of identity thing never sat right with me either.

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icon_uk
2009-06-23 06:12 pm UTC (link)

If you keep posting Devin Grayson material, you're on a hiding to nothing I'm afraid, I've never made a secret of not liking her style at all, and her Titans and Nightwing runs most of all.

Roy disrespects Batman because he thinks he's too much of a hardass ALL THE TIME. That's quite different from being actively rude to a long standing friend and team-mate like that.

Dick being attracted to Huntress is one thing, but being attracted enough to her whilst being involved with Babs, and having a one night stand based on apparently unbearable sexual chemistry is so completely OOC for Dick, it's absurd.

Dick and Jesse as friends IS interesting, but this implies that Dick sees it as more than that, which I just can't see.

When did Dick and Clancy ever date? They described each other as "pizza buddies", with no aspirations for a relationship.

Again, this seems to be viewed through Devin-filtered glasses. She has noted that she thinks Dick is such a supremely physical person that he has a "fight or fuck" reaction to ANY physical contact, overlooking completely that the thing which anyone who IS as physical as Dick is, is absolute self-discipline.

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	bluefall 2009-06-23 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	whilst being involved with Babs He wasn't. NIGHTWING/HUNTRESS was spring of '98, Babs and Dick didn't start up until mid-to-late '99. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-23 06:46 pm UTC (link)
	Really? I stand corrected on that score then, thanks. (Reply to this) (Parent)

lipsofpoison
2009-06-23 06:48 pm UTC (link)

No, I've got a few things that aren't Grayson stored on here. I just happened to be doing relationship scans and Grayson does a lot of that.

But Roy is like that all of the time with Garth, whether he's leader or not. I can see your POV about being supportive about being a leader, but I can understand him being mouthy with him as in character even if it's not very nice, but assuming he's dead isn't in character for me. It's a fine line.

I'll withhold judgement on it till I see it, though I believe the Huntress thing is a good 10-15 Nightwing issues before he's with Babs, because the I think it's pre the main Clancy stuff too.

As for Dick and Clancy, from Nightwing #31:

There's also a kiss about ten issues later, iirc.

Actually, I read into it that other people are mocking Dick's history with female Titans via his relationship with Jesse. I don't think it's meant to mean anything, but I could be wrong.

I agree that Dick has amazing self discipline, but he also has this amazing attachment to people that I think some people could define as romantic. Personally, I tend to find it platonic but I can see where people might get the idea that Dick, because of that, has a 'fight or fuck' response. I don't think he does have it, but I can understand why some people might.

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	lieut_kettch 2009-06-24 05:56 am UTC (link)
	Too bad Final Crisis and Battle for the Cowl cut short the "Nightwing in NYC" phase. Would've wanted to see what would've happened between him and Clancy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lipsofpoison 2009-06-24 07:56 am UTC (link)
	As much as I wanted it to be Dick in the cowl, I do miss his Nightwinginess. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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