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Clark Kent rescues kittens out of trees. (ex_savior698) wrote in wariscomingcom,
@ 2012-06-09 22:59:00

Entry tags:

allana solo, clark kent/superman, cordelia chase, helena g. wells, kimberly corman, loki, phoebe halliwell, tom judge

Filtered against Ares, Livia, & the usual suspects.
There's nothing in the world that makes me angrier than watching someone with power abuse it.

If anyone needs fresh water or transport to a clean bathing area, I'll gladly take you where you need to go or bring you what you need to get by.

I'm so sorry you're being punished for something you're not responsible for.

[ooc: Backdated a bit on account of slowatus keeping MJ from fun times.]

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	subtletrick 2012-06-10 04:41 am UTC (link)
	There is a difference between punishment and a warning. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	judgeofman 2012-06-10 05:09 am UTC (link)
	Seriously? I didn't do shit to him or this champion he was ranting about. I don't even know what the fuck he was talking about. Yet I just had to flee the fucking complex because of his last "warning". Seems like pretty shitty aim and a pretty shitty warning. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

subtletrick
2012-06-10 05:17 am UTC (link)

Warnings are rather frequently posted to the general public. It saves time, giving a single broad warning, rather than several individual ones as certain people need them.

I am sorry that it was something that sent you out of your home, and I am not saying I completely agree with the specific choices made, but given the many alternatives I'm sure Ares could have chosen, this was somewhat mild.

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judgeofman
2012-06-10 05:22 am UTC (link)

Written warnings are posted to the general public. Intimidation is usually aimed at the person or people intended. So you can stop patronizing now or we can just drop that entire line of discussion entirely.

Bullshit. "Oh, he could have done so much worse so I should just forgive him for shoving an addiction I'm struggling with in my face." Fuck that. I told him on his post earlier that his aim needed work. Apparently he didn't even bother to consider it. So yeah, sorry, no I'm not going to just shrug it off when he pulls that shit.

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subtletrick
2012-06-10 05:44 am UTC (link)

It was not my intention to patronize. I am not certain anyone would have heeded a written warning, in this case - and I believe one of those had already been issued, previously.

As I said, I am sorry that is was particularly worse for you, when you were not involved. If there is anything I can do to make the situation slightly less problematic, I would be happy to do so.

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	judgeofman 2012-06-10 05:55 am UTC (link)
	What's your point? He had the option of dealing with the people involved, written or otherwise. He decided to just fuck everyone over instead. There's no way to word that where it's okay. Sure. I'll be a lot happier if you could stop trying to get people to excuse blatant dick-waving. Could you do that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	subtletrick 2012-06-10 06:16 am UTC (link)
	Whether or not it is 'okay' is a matter of opinion, evidently. One we differ on. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

judgeofman
2012-06-10 06:20 am UTC (link)

So it's okay that he shoved my addiction in my face and left me with no choice but to flee the complex and spend money I really can't afford to be spending on a motel for the night. It's okay that he did all this when I don't even know what the fuck is going on and never even so much as said word one to him or his champion.

In other words, you're a tremendous asshole. Got it.

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judgeofman, 2012-06-10 06:32 am UTC

	onlynewlife 2012-06-10 05:51 am UTC (link)
	You. Said it better than me. Intimidation =/= warning, anyway. It's a bully's way of whining. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	judgeofman 2012-06-10 06:02 am UTC (link)
	Oh, I'm fine with intimidation as a warning, when you direct it at the people that need it. The problem here's the aim. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onlynewlife 2012-06-10 06:06 am UTC (link)
	Oh, agreed. Personally, I think she had every right to be pissed off at those guys...she was actually trying to help, but mass intimidation when there's two responsible parties is kind of a dick move. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	judgeofman 2012-06-10 06:22 am UTC (link)
	Kind of? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	onlynewlife 2012-06-10 05:14 am UTC (link)
	How about if he warns the responsible parties so he's not punishing those of us who've never even talked to his little girlfriend or whoever she is, Loki? Be fair. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

subtletrick
2012-06-10 05:27 am UTC (link)

A warning is a preemptive display meant to prevent future problems. Thus, a warning can still be applicable to everyone, regardless of whether they have done what is being warned against yet, or not.

I am being fair. I am also trying to keep him from reacting far more harshly. He is right to feel slighted, and allowing him this one display of power may prevent him from doing anything far worse, next time he is in a mood.

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onlynewlife
2012-06-10 05:48 am UTC (link)

Thanks for the patronizing...I know what a warning is.

Uh...last time I checked it was just the newbie Avengers getting ol' girl's panties all in a bunch and that they were repeat offenders, barring the public outrage about her taking on a slave since that hardly counts, because, uh...fucking slavery. The only people he seems to be trying to warn seem to be the ones who care the least while the rest of us suffer for their actions.

So, excuse the hell out of me for thinking no, he really doesn't have the right and I really hope you're joking when you say you letting him is going to do anything other than give him justification to push boundaries later.

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subtletrick
2012-06-10 06:04 am UTC (link)

Evidently you did not.

He agreed to remain at peace with us as long as we did the same, and treated those he considers his own with respect. This was a public declaration. He felt it was being infringed upon. I am not in direct control of his methods. Personally, I would have done things differently, yes. But it is not my place to stop him as long as he is within the lines of the agreement we established - and he is.

Would you rather he continued to have a building frustration, until inevitably it became something far worse? He will not be pushing any boundaries. I will not allow it.

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	onlynewlife 2012-06-10 06:10 am UTC (link)
	Uh...yeah, I do. It's not really a warning if its a follow up to a warning, which you've already said was established. But again, thanks for the condescension. Uh, no, what I'm saying is, if he's got a problem with those two, then keep the fucking sand in the sandbox, Loki. Handle them and leave us out of it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	subtletrick 2012-06-10 06:23 am UTC (link)
	Multiple warnings are generally permitted, yes? Unless I am misunderstanding some aspect of the term's use here. I am not directly responsible for his actions. I have tried to help you understand the motivation behind them, but evidently that is not something I am able to properly convey. Feel free to speak to Ares on the matter, if you feel so led. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	thirdcharmed 2012-06-10 06:03 am UTC (link)
	When a warning has to be explained as such, it kind of misses it's point. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	subtletrick 2012-06-10 06:07 am UTC (link)
	Put that down to him being a god of war and not diplomacy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thirdcharmed 2012-06-10 06:15 am UTC (link)
	Diplomacy and war tend to go hand in hand....or they do when the person in question isn't using his power for his own amusements. ~~Paige made a much better god of war~~ (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	subtletrick 2012-06-10 06:29 am UTC (link)
	I have often found the warriors are more interested in the actual destructive side of things than in appropriate ways to convey a point without the use of weapons. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	ex_savior698 2012-06-10 05:22 am UTC (link)
	A warning is usually what happens before the punishment, right? In what way is poisoning water in this city not considered punishment? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	subtletrick 2012-06-10 05:30 am UTC (link)
	It was not all the water available, merely that in the plumbing systems - and there are many, like yourself, who are capable of retrieving water for the others should a desperate need arise. If it continues beyond the particular time he indicated, I will personally fix the problem. No one will be dying. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_savior698 2012-06-10 06:23 am UTC (link)
	That water was never his to mess with. He had no right to interfere with anyone's way of living, let alone threaten them for something that they weren't involved in. No, no one will be dying. You're not the only person defending these people, Loki, even if your current views on what's going on right now aren't all that promising. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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