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drsevarius ([info]drsevarius) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-04 14:44:00

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Entry tags:char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: joker, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: starfire/koriand'r, creator: joe bennett, creator: marc andreyko

Dick and Babs: Awkward!

This is from Nightwing Annual #2 by Marc Andreyko and Joe Bennett
















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[info]sistermagpie
2009-09-05 03:05 pm UTC (link)
So much word. This makes no sense and I hate the way all the characters are acting. Why doesn't Kory tell him, btw, that it was Babs at the door? It makes her seem like a bitch interfering with their relationship, as if she's got to keep Dick all to herself, and that seems completely not what she's about.

Then Barbara and Dick get their more interesting relationship shoehorned into something else just, as you say, to suit this idea that if you don't establish that people always loved each other better than they love other people, it's not true love. Which is particularly stupid for Dick Grayson, a character whose most formative experience was losing one family/life and gaining another without ever having to give up the first to love the second.

Also I hate that kind of sweet, awkward Batfamily moment getting retconned into Dick making a play for Babs that Babs actually considered but was scared to act on. Just, no.

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[info]runespoor7
2009-09-05 05:16 pm UTC (link)
Why doesn't Kory tell him, btw, that it was Babs at the door? It makes her seem like a bitch interfering with their relationship, as if she's got to keep Dick all to herself, and that seems completely not what she's about.

Well, Babs looks pretty close to tears at that point, and not in any hurry to see Dick when she sees Kory. Probably Kory thought Babs would be horribly embarrassed if Dick heard she'd been there.

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[info]sistermagpie
2009-09-05 05:25 pm UTC (link)
That's definitely one reading of it, but the bottom line is I just can't really imagine myself doing what Kory does without being manipulative and isn't the point of Kory that she's supposed to be non-manipulative? Based on her own alleged nature, wouldn't it be more in character for her to believe it's better to be honest at least about Babs dropping by? Because Babs would have no way of knowing that Kory lied about it, so would have reason to take Dick's not ever mentioning it as his not wanting her there. Dick even implies as much when Babs tells him. She could easily have told Dick it was Babs without humiliating Babs in any way. Just say she dropped by but didn't stay--maybe since Dick had company.

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[info]runespoor7
2009-09-05 05:40 pm UTC (link)
I agree it's not very good Kory characterization. It's like the writer had ideas about the characters' traits and how they could act on them - Dick's impulsive, Kory's nice - but stopped short of thinking the implications through.

She could easily have told Dick it was Babs without humiliating Babs in any way. Just say she dropped by but didn't stay--maybe since Dick had company.

Chances are Dick would hurry after Babs, and the ensuing scene would be awkward.

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