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Tweak says, "Queer as Tweak."

drsevarius (drsevarius) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-04 14:44:00

Entry tags:

char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: joker, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: starfire/koriand'r, creator: joe bennett, creator: marc andreyko

Dick and Babs: Awkward!

This is from Nightwing Annual #2 by Marc Andreyko and Joe Bennett

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	volksjager 2009-09-04 07:13 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm, then if you add the Batman Beyond version where Bruce and Babs hook up ,then you've got trouble. Battle Royal trouble... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jaybee3 2009-09-04 07:20 pm UTC (link)
	Another one of the reasons I didn't like BB. I must be the only person who didn't like the show. Terry's fine but its depiction of Bruce is horrible. I refuse to believe he would turn out like that (or that he would get it on with Babs after she's been with NW). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-09-04 07:27 pm UTC (link)

She'd never been with Nightwing though. Dick and Babs had had an adversarial relationship though they did sort of date in "Sub Zero", Batgirl and Robin had flirted briefly, but she hadn't known his ID.

Bruce told her both their ID's without checking with Dick first (even just a courtesy warning), and Dick left town immediately therafter. When he returned a couple of years later as Nightwing it seems that they never hooked up as a couple in any story we saw. And since Dick has zero profile in BB (A couple of mentions to one side) there's no suggestion they ever did.

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" Who's dick grayson ?"

volksjager
2009-09-04 07:36 pm UTC (link)

That jacket Terry wears with the Dick Grayson name on the tag. Nightwing is the only person you never learn about in the show. Bruce Timm did say they had a story in mind when show was to have come back after Justice League was off the ground. It involves Terry going to Bludhaven on a case. I can just imagine the "heroes mistake each other for villains fight" Bruce would have just turned up the audio on the cowl came and eaten popcorn...

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	Re: " Who's dick grayson ?" icon_uk 2009-09-04 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	Even then, IIRC Terry simply asks who "DG" is on the tag, and Bruce doesn't even identify it. Barbara tells Terry to talk to Nightwing sometime if they want to talk about "Bruce issues" I think "Return of the Joker" might be the only time Dick is referenced by his own name when Babs is recounting the flashback. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: " Who's dick grayson ?" volksjager 2009-09-04 07:53 pm UTC (link)
	I stand corrected, you are right. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: " Who's dick grayson ?" merrickm 2009-09-04 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	Also in the scene where we find out about the Bruce/Babs relationship. Babs said she dated Dick Grayson before Bruce, but that it was "puppy love." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2009-09-04 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	Wait what? When did that happen? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	merrickm 2009-09-04 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	In the episode where Terry finds out that Commissioner Gordon was once Batgirl, she explains that one of the reasons Dick Grayson isn't in Bruce's life now is because when he left Gotham for Bludhaven she left him for Bruce. It wasn't dealt with much beyond that one scene, though alluded to here and there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-09-04 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	In BB, Terry asks who close Babs and Bruce had been, she doesn't say anything but gives him a look and Terry's "Oooooooh!" which she doesn't deny, speaks volumes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	darkknightjrk 2009-09-04 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	They also show a scene between Bruce and Barbara on the phone during Mystery of the Batwoman. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	404glitch 2009-09-05 09:53 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, but Bruce wasn't really thrilled by that call either. It seemed like Babs was pushing something Bruce wasn't interested in. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bluefall 2009-09-04 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	I must be the only person who didn't like the show. Not hardly. (Reply to this) (Parent)

parsimonia
2009-09-04 07:47 pm UTC (link)

Well, it's one of those things that's fun to enjoy knowing it's not canon in comics. Babs/Bruce is going to be a pretty messed up relationship, especially with respect to their respective relationships with Dick, not to mention Bruce and the Commish being pals.

It's a very pessimistic future, to be sure. But I think that's a big part of why it's enjoyable. It's like "so, where does this trainwreck take us?" and there are lots of interesting stories within that.

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parsimonia
2009-09-04 07:52 pm UTC (link)

Actually, I will say there are some things I didn't enjoy. (The most obvious being that there were only a handful of episodes with Babs. Everything needs MOAR Babs!) I disliked, even when I was younger and it was new, how hard it tried to be "cool" with its "shway" talk and all of that.

But I did like Old Man Bruce. I don't know if it's the Batdickery or just Kevin Conroy, but he was my favourite character.

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	ladymirth 2009-09-05 04:08 am UTC (link)
	THIS. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	gotham_girl 2009-09-04 08:24 pm UTC (link)
	Is it bad that I tend to lean these days towards Barbara/Ted (even though he's currently dead?) You know back in BoP? ;) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kingrockwell 2009-09-04 08:36 pm UTC (link)
	Not at all! I usually prefer Ted or Dinah myself. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

gotham_girl
2009-09-04 08:42 pm UTC (link)

They're both just so... i would say cute but i mean Babs and Ted are. But she and dinah are a different level altogether :) Can you put requests up on the site? I'd love to see more of the babs/ted interaction (be it wen they didnt know it was one another or otherwise) on site. The problem is that i remember the comics vaguely LOL and ive NO IDEA where they are! Did they even compendium BoP yet?

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	kingrockwell 2009-09-04 09:01 pm UTC (link)
	Sadly, aside from a few crossovers (Officer Down, Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive, Nightwing: The Hunt For Oracle, am i forgetting any?) the vast amount of issues between Old Friends, New Enemies and Of Like Minds are still uncollected. They have a request post once a month, so it shouldn't be too far away, but I'll see what I can scrounge up in the meantime! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-09-04 10:15 pm UTC (link)
	I think my Ted/Babs post from S_D 1.0 is still floating around the backup archive. I could go dig it out if'n you like, IIRC it was fairly thorough. (Not to step on your toes if you want to do your own post of course.) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	timemonkey 2009-09-05 01:15 am UTC (link)
	How about Barbra/Ted/Dinah. I'm sure they could share. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	gotham_girl 2009-09-05 01:25 am UTC (link)
	Something I'm sure that Ted wouldn't mind at all :D And I LOVE that icon!!! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	timemonkey 2009-09-05 02:04 am UTC (link)
	There's enough Ted to go around. Plus he's bendy! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	jelly_ace 2009-09-05 02:54 am UTC (link)
	No need to remind us of that awful, awful fact. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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