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perletwo (perletwo) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-18 01:00:00

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char: beast/hank mccoy, char: captain america/steve rogers, char: hawkeye/ronin/clint barton, char: iron man/tony stark, char: ms. marvel/carol danvers, char: professor x/charles xavier, char: scarlet witch/wanda maximoff, char: spider-woman/jessica drew, char: storm/ororo munroe, char: thor, char: vision, char: wonder man/simon williams, creator: chris claremont, creator: michael golden, group: avengers, title: avengers

Avengers Annual #10 - Today, on a Very Special Jerry Springer....
... Carol Danvers lays the smack down on the Avengers for their handling of the events of Avengers #200, so very recently posted here.

Posting 6 pages of a 38-page annual, not my scans and nothing done to them but resizing, by very popular demand.

We join our heroes by the pool at Xavier's mansion, some time after Rogue's brain-sucking of Carol; Xavier has helped her recover a rough version of her memories. Jessica Drew's there because as Spider-Woman she saved Carol's life when Rogue threw her empty shell off the Golden Gate Bridge.

Remember, Carol at this point has reconstructed her life history, but it's ghostly to her, no real emotions attached. Can you imagine how this'd've played if she were fully herself?

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	perletwo 2009-08-18 06:11 am UTC (link)
	nods I ask coz I would dearly have loved to see Wasp called on the carpet for her giggly-poo "Oooo, a BAAY-bee!" behavior. Not quite as bad as Beast's armloads'o sporting goods, but a close second. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-08-18 06:16 am UTC (link)
	Carol got her good in the issue that it happened, and I really wish she hadn't taken it back. I love Jan to pieces, but she deserved that rant. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	interrobamf 2009-08-18 06:41 am UTC (link)
	There was another rant? Any chance that could be posted? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-08-18 06:43 am UTC (link)
	It's in the original post, when Carol goes off at her for calling her "lucky". The reason it's not as effective as it should be is because she later apologizes for getting angry, when she really should have been getting angrier at the rest of the team anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	interrobamf 2009-08-18 06:58 am UTC (link)
	Ah, I misunderstood your post. Apologies! (Reply to this) (Parent)

requiem2adream
2009-08-18 10:41 am UTC (link)

To play devils advocate, Carol forgiving Janet for her behavior actually fits right in with the retcon, if we take as happening after Marcus starts exerting his mindwash on her. So the initial outburst is her actual feelings as the baby Marcus doesn't have the power to control Carol, then later when he's an adult he can start controlling her and the result is of Carol being all 'oops, my bad!'

Obviously I realise it wasn't written that way, and was just EPIC FAIL on behalf of the original writer but still. Taking the retcon into account, it makes sense, of a kind.

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	jlroberson 2009-08-18 10:58 am UTC (link)
	Honestly, how responsible can you hold Janet Van Dyne? That would imply she had an intelligence worth respecting in the first place. But that kind of flippy, airheaded stuff is her speciality. Well, was. No, I don't miss the Wasp, not at all. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	perletwo 2009-08-18 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	I don't miss that Wasp, no - but I first got to know Janet when she was leader of the Avengers, in the...ummm...Roger Stern era, I think? Post-divorce "I Am Woman" Jan. So this kind of airheadedness seems to me like the aberration rather than the other way 'round. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-08-18 03:46 pm UTC (link)
	Too bad that Wasp vanished well before she actually died. I like to pretend something went wrong around 2004 and we ended up with an alter-universe one. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thogrim 2009-08-20 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	I just pretend Jan was either replaced or brainwashed by the Zodiac cartel during Geoff Johns run. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-08-20 09:54 pm UTC (link)
	That's a good theory too. I like that one. Since Hank hadn't yet been Skrull replaced (I think) during the Austen run, we can blame that for his shitty characterization during that as well. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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