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jelly_ace ([info]jelly_ace) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-15 19:42:00

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Current mood: sleepy
Entry tags:char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, publisher: dc comics, theme: dcau, title: batman and robin adventures, title: batman the animated series

When Bats was human...

This is why I love the B:TAS Bruce Wayne/Batman, horrible brown suit nonwithstanding:

From Robin's Reckoning:
Bruce comforts(!) Dick when Dick feels guilty about not stopping Tony Zucko from killing his parents.
Bruce: I know it must be very difficult.
Dick: If only I could have stopped him! I saw him coming out of the tent! I knew he didn't belong there!
Bruce: I know. You keep thinking, If only I had done something differently. If only I could have... warned them. But there isn't anything you could have done. There isn't anything either of us could have done.
Dick: Your mom and dad? Does the hurt ever go away?
Bruce: I wish I could say yes. But it will get better in time. For you. That I promise.







From Baby Doll:
Bats confronts a very sorry Mary Dahl, who kidnapped her previous cast mates from a popular TV show that made her a star in order to make a new one and reclaim her lost fame.
"I didn't mean to."


It was kinda hard associating this Bats with the Batgod/Batdick that was later in the JL, JLU, and TNBA. And I would think this Bats WOULDN'T HAVE INDULGED IN AN ICKY AND INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH BABS!!! Sorry, that particular bit in Batman Beyond and in the Mystery of the Batwoman really really annoyed me.

In a more lighter note (and to make things legal):


"Fanhandling" should definitely be in the S_D slogan.


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Re: Only if you're a Bat fan
[info]arctis
2009-08-15 11:49 pm UTC (link)
because of her only slight resemblance to the "real" diana(which, the dcau being practically an elseworld falls a littel flat) oder because of a special charactertrait of hers that just rubs you the wrong way?

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Re: Only if you're a Bat fan
[info]jupiterrhode
2009-08-16 02:30 am UTC (link)
Because of a few things. She didn't win her right to her costume, she stole it. All of her big name villains aren't actually her villains. Her most signature power appears exactly once in the entire history of the show. In fact the show did everything in its power to make her little more than a female superman, stripping away all of her unique powers and character traits; DCAU!Diana was just another super-strong warrior bitch.

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Re: Only if you're a Bat fan
[info]arctis
2009-08-16 11:43 am UTC (link)
She didn't win her right to her costume, she stole it.

and wallys the first flash, there is no hal jordan, hawkgirl and her species are invaders and spies...list goes on. but i see your point. diana earning her costume was always important for the character, but i think her quest to redeem herself in the eyes of her sisters, to show them that patriarchsworld is capable of good, could also have played out pretty well, while still being true to the essence of the character.

all her big name villains aren't actually her villains.

well hades, ares and aresia all had a special backstory/obsession with diana. for a character without a own show to pull from that's fairly decent. hawkgirl only got hawkman(x2) and the shadowthief(and shadowthief had far more connections to the second hawkman). martian manhunter got those aliens from secret origins. it's a teams serie and every explanation for the villains/bakstory etc had to be exactly in the same(or next part of the) episode the villains appeared in. batman didn't get any villains in the whole of jlu!

...stripping away all of her unique powers and character traits
nope.

she had to earn her powers late in the series, true, but she had her own character from the get go. again, this is not her "real" new earth self but an abstract interpretation, but you always knew that she was her own character in her own right. and the fact that she represented an archetype, well...flash was the childish comedian, gl the stoic soldier, superman the superhero, batman the outsider(that secretly wants to be part of the team) etc. for a series like this with such an enormous cast(jlu) you have to give the viewer something he knews till you build up the deeper character stuff(only happened to a small degree with diana, i know, but i see where they were coming from).

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