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Tweak says, "You're my dirty little secret."

espanolbot (espanolbot) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-13 00:04:00

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genre: parody, medium: webcomic, title: casstoons, title: red robin

Rapid Red Robin Reaction Rass... Casstoon

Funny that he appears to have reached the lowest point he's ever been, except the majority of the reasons for his previous bouts of depression (the deaths of Bart, Conner and Steph) have all be retconned within the past few months.

And judging from the September solicits he's going to hear about Conner and Bart coming back soon, as well.

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	stratosfyr 2009-06-12 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	That was a total Kick the Dog moment for me, even if the dog was a bad guy. It's going to take a hell of a lot for that kid to be remotely believable or likeable to me now. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kagome654 2009-06-12 10:36 pm UTC (link)
	I tend to be fairly forgiving given his age and the fact he was raised in an environment in which killing your enemies/opponents is treated as perfectly natural. There's a a warrior ethos at work there that is totally alien to the majority of the Batfamily and most other people, so yeah, I fully admit to having a different set of standards for him. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

xlineartx
2009-06-12 11:01 pm UTC (link)

Yes, but--

look, I have a thing for unlikeable characters, and even I don't like him. I mean, I could see how he'd be a fun and interesting, if he wasn't such a little Mary Sue. Like, if he was Talia's cousin or nephew or something--her apprentice, even--that she dropped on Bruce to learn detective skills or how not to be a douchebag or something, then I would probably like the character a bit more. It's this omgbruce'slonglostson! thing screams badfic to me. I also don't feel like he's being written as a scarily-precocious child so much as a teenager who's nominally a kid, and I think even scarily-precocious is too Sueish when dealing with a long-lost assassin-trained son of Batman and Talia Al-Ghul. Plus, he hasn't interacted in a meaningful way with any of the characters, especially the characters it'd be most interesting to have him interact with--Cass, most obviously, and Helena.

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kagome654
2009-06-12 11:38 pm UTC (link)

Yes, well, that's an entirely different (and equally legitimate) reason not to like him.

I like him because he is so over the top ridiculous. I'm not terribly offended by his Mary Sueish ways, I think they're hilarious (particularly because he is SUCH a dumbass, despite all his abilities and talents). A lot of characters in Batman are Mary Sues, most of them have simply grown out of it. I like to assume that Damian will eventually develop in a nuanced and meaningful way, but I have a lot more patience for that sort of thing than most*.

Though I certainly agree that he needs to interact more with the rest of the Batfamily, particularly Cass. She has the ability to put him in his place pretty quickly, both in terms of her fighting prowess and the fact that she has a background similar to his and could offer genuine insight (if she so desired). She was also raised to be a weapon and treated less like a person than a means to an end. The methods and the results were vastly different, but ultimately he has more in common with her than most.

I get that there are a lot more reasons to dislike the character than like him (both in terms of characterization and at a more meta/critical level), I'm just willing to be that annoying person who champions him because I think there's a worthwhile character in there.

*Not that a high tolerance for bullshit and questionable writing is something to brag about

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	(Anonymous) 2009-06-13 01:00 am UTC (link)
	I'm just waiting for the "Jason Todd is your actual father, Damian." reveal. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kagome654 2009-06-13 09:34 am UTC (link)
	Now there's a horrifying direction I had never thought of! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	runespoor7 2009-06-13 10:30 am UTC (link)
	I would never stop laughing. Thank you so much for brightening my day. "Jason Todd is you father, Damian!" (Reply to this) (Parent)

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