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starwolf_oakley (starwolf_oakley) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-01 01:30:00

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char: mary jane watson, creator: ross andru, title: amazing spider-man

Political cartoon regarding the Big Buyout
After the cut, a political cartoon regarding the big "Disney buys Marvel" story.

For legality.

This panel is from AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #153. Mary Jane is angry over Peter ditching her at a party (hosted by J. Jonah Jameson) two issues back. With the whole "Mary Jane knew Peter's secret all along" reveal, this anger is really concern and worry over Peter constantly risking his life as Spider-Man. Does this make Mary Jane more complex?

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ex_stig213
2009-09-01 10:50 am UTC (link)

Additionally, while I wouldn't want to necessarily equate the two, the Nazi movement would certainly draw some satisfaction from the shuffling of ethnic groups in Disney's award-winning motion pictures- it's taken them, what, decades to make a film with a black main protagonist?

I mean, I'm sure they don't intend to be racist, but it is incredibly easy to pick out stereotypes from their films, good and bad - notice how, for instance, British accents are confined to the villains and comic relief in Pocahontas, or how all the good guys in Hercules - set in the heat of Ancient Greece - are White Caucasians, or how quite a lot of the unnamed characters in Mulan look very similar to one another, or how the peaceful Atlanteans of Atlantis are unable to solve their own problems without the interference of white Americand...etc., etc.

No malice intended - I enjoy Disney's better productions as much as anyone - but, like I say, it is incredibly easy to pick stuff out.

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jlroberson
2009-09-01 10:53 am UTC (link)

I seem to recall an article in the Comics Journal years and years ago that talked about Walt Disney's continued commerce with Germany, and the Nazi government, for years after Hitler's rise, and that Mickey Mouse was quite popular there for a long time. I remember a picture of a Nazi fighter plane with an image of Mickey painted on the fuselage, straddling a bomb and hitting it with a hammer.

So again, not consistent folks.

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	tacobob 2009-09-01 02:01 pm UTC (link)
	Really? That sounds odd. Disney was putting out Anti-Hitler (Der Fuehrer's Face) toons before it was the thing to do. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-01 06:53 pm UTC (link)
	We call that "hedging your bets." And those cartoons didn't go over there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-09-01 12:48 pm UTC (link)
	Err... Greeks are probably far more closely related to caucasians than say, the english are. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_stig213 2009-09-01 12:52 pm UTC (link)
	Agreed, but I'm adamant that Ancient Greeks would most have had browner skin than any one of the protagonists in "Hercules" did. Additionally - how come no-one has thought of Herc bitch-slapping Disney's Hercules yet? It's got to happen, people! No WAY is Herc going to let some prettyboy action-man-prototype steal his thunder! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-09-01 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	Greek coloring depends on which invasion period you're in. I'm descended from pale, tall, generally brown haired Greeks. Many modern Greeks with brown skin and dark hair are descended from Turkish rapes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_stig213 2009-09-01 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, right. Sorry, I realise I must have sounded pretty stupid there. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-09-01 10:23 pm UTC (link)
	Eh, I only researched it cuz I couldn't figure out why in my old black and white family pictures no one looked classic modern Greek. Seriously, ancient Greece was like rape central. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-02 03:18 am UTC (link)
	Well, in ANCIENT Greece those would have been Trojans, not Turks. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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