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sir_razorback (sir_razorback) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-12 17:36:00

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char: megatron, creator: alex milne, creator: eric holmes, publisher: idw, title: transformers

Megatron and his wild hair

Two requests for the price of one, a few pages from Megatron: Origins #2, including the scene that he takes his helmet off.
As a little bit of background, he was part of a miner riot in the previous issue and went underground. Now he's part of an arena-fighting league that's very Roman.

BTW, does anyone have a good suggestion for an image hosting site? Don't want to use Photobucket, I hear they're quick on the trigger for yanking images violating ToS. Don't want to keep using LiveJournal because I think the oldest images get cycled out of existance after a while.

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	greenmask 2009-08-13 01:02 am UTC (link)
	I am really not being snarky, but could you kindly point me to exactly what I'm looking at? I cannot do this botstyle. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-08-13 01:03 am UTC (link)
	(as in, in case I was unclear, the art type pokes me in my eyes and makes me weep oily tears.) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

nagaoka
2009-08-13 01:08 am UTC (link)

Yeah, same here. I ended up really disliking Megatron Origins as well as another TF book Stormbringer. Both were mostly for the same reasons. Everything gets really really cluttered with tons of cybertron-mode robots you can't properly recognize on every page (with tons of panel detailing). Origins has it even worse with everything being much darker/contrasted than normal.

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	greenmask 2009-08-13 11:46 am UTC (link)
	As well as the ridiculous levels of panel detailing (that has to count as skin disease on cybertron) I really thing that Transformers look much, much better when they're flat-coloured. Photoshop shine just does them in. They're already confusing to look at and further dehumanisation does not help! (Reply to this) (Parent)

nagaoka
2009-08-13 01:19 am UTC (link)

Megatron and Cy-kill fight to the death. Eventually Megs transforms and crushes Cy. The crowd is shouting at Megatron to finish him already, but Megatron is hesitant. (Earlier in the book he was working in an energon mine where they were told they all had to leave per the government's orders. He argued against it and kinda flew into a rage and killed somebody, which he had never done before. So this is the reason.) Anyways he finally kills Cy-Kill. As part of his victory he takes his helmet-which-is-really-his-head-but-WHATEVER and airs out his (non existant!!!!) robot hair of silliness.

and everyone cheers

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	scarlettwyst 2009-08-13 02:08 am UTC (link)
	Oh jesus! I didnt realize that that spikey...ness... was his "hair" UNFOLDING. (mirite? i'm right... right?) WTF. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sir_razorback 2009-08-13 02:12 am UTC (link)
	Aye, yourite. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	geoffsebesta 2009-08-13 09:48 am UTC (link)
	Even after you explain it I still can't see it. Art fail. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	greenmask 2009-08-13 11:39 am UTC (link)
	Thank you! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	pyynk 2009-08-13 04:32 am UTC (link)
	It makes me appreciate Wildman and Senior that much more. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

angelophile
2009-08-13 09:44 am UTC (link)

Oh hells yes.

I never did like the Dreamwave house style and dislike it just as much when it's being used in IDW.

To be fair, it's often not just the art, but the combination with the heavy Photoshop painted colours, that don't do it for me. And they get considerably more murky than this in stuff like The War Within and Stormbringer.

Honestly, All Hail Megatron aside, any TF comic since G2's left me pretty much indifferent.

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	greenmask 2009-08-13 11:35 am UTC (link)
	I never thought I could appreciate Senior more.. but yes indeed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	pyynk 2009-08-13 04:28 pm UTC (link)
	Issue 75 of the original Marvel run is still awesomeness incarnate. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-08-13 04:34 pm UTC (link)
	Remind me which that is? I don't have them on hand just now. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	rorge 2009-08-13 05:06 pm UTC (link)
	That would be On The Edge of Extinction. In US issues, anyway. UK numbering would make #75 part two of In The National Interest, one of Furman's many Dinobot stories that were rendered moot by Budiansky's inept treatment of the characters. Anyway, that's the big showdown with Unicron story. Pencils by Geoff Senior, colouring, unfortunately, by Nel Yomtov. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	angelophile 2009-08-13 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	Honestly, Nel wasn't even good by the standards of the time, but I honestly think the heavy, thick, dark Photoshop paints that have been applied to stuff like this, Stormbringer, War Wihin and much of the Dreamwave run in general are actually worse. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

rorge
2009-08-13 10:19 pm UTC (link)

Dreamwave was pretty nasty, and the art in these scans is just incomprehensible. I think Yomtov grates more with me because even as a kid, collecting the UK Transformers run, the change from the US penned stories and their shonky artwork, to the far superior UK based stuff was jarring.

But Senior's art shone so much more when Steve White was doing the colouring, on stories like Fire on High and Galvatron: Wanted Dead or Alive. Any of the Marvel UK colourers (if that's the right plural) really.

It always just baffled me how there could be such a massive, obvious difference in the quality of the work, and the care taken by those involved.

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	rorge 2009-08-13 03:47 pm UTC (link)
	Senior was fantastic. Best Transformers artist by a country mile. I was never too keen on Wildman, though. Most of the time, his 'bots ended up looking like humans with armour on, right down to teeth, tongues and spit. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	pyynk 2009-08-14 03:41 am UTC (link)
	I think I was just so happy that anyone besides Delbo was drawing the series that I would've been happy. That being said, I can definitely recognize Wildman's humanizing the Transformers, but it was so vibrant, so dynamic that I didn't mind that much at the time. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	nagaoka 2009-08-13 01:04 am UTC (link)
	Thanks for posting this! I have this book but I just can't get over how silly the idea of Megatron having robot hair, particularly hair has ridiculous as that, is. Also, perceptive readers will notice a certain Go-bot in the background. I'm not just talking about Cy-kill. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	kamino_neko 2009-08-13 01:15 am UTC (link)
	Right next to Ratbat when he's telling Mags to finish Cykill, y'mean? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

nagaoka
2009-08-13 01:23 am UTC (link)

I don't think Ratbat is in these scans...is he? He's a senator in Origins isn't he?

You might be right though. Are you talking about uh...what's his name? The one who leads the team and the event.

Anyways the go-bot I'm talking about is in the victory shot next to rumble and frenzy as well as in a few other shots like "now you know what it takes". She's hard to miss in that one.

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	kamino_neko 2009-08-13 01:29 am UTC (link)
	It's been a while since I read it (when it first came out)...I may be misremembering, but I seem to remember Ratbat was secretly sponsoring the gladiator fights. But now that you mention it, he was just sponsoring Megs, wasn't he? Anyway, yeah, that's the panel I was talking about. (Had a harder time finding the panel with the tapes.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	fromtheaether 2009-08-13 01:05 am UTC (link)
	And thus dies Cy-Kill, former foe of the Go-Bots. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	crinosg 2009-08-13 02:31 am UTC (link)
	Poor Go-bots, get no respect. Not that they deserve any, but still... It is kind of sad. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-08-13 11:47 am UTC (link)
	Sure they did! The evil leaders had fun dynamic. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	shanejayell 2009-08-13 01:20 am UTC (link)
	The 'hair' makes me LOL because it reminds me of Appleseed. (Reply to this)

	kamino_neko 2009-08-13 01:20 am UTC (link)
	Anyone have the Dreamwave version of this? (Gladiator Megs killing Cy-Kill.) (Reply to this)

	foxhack 2009-08-13 01:28 am UTC (link)
	That hair looks more like heat vents to me. :p As for Photobucket, I've hosted stuff there for years and have never really had them delete anything but the obviously NSFW stuff. (Reply to this)

	kagome654 2009-08-13 01:40 am UTC (link)
	Awesome, thank you! Admittedly it's a little hard for me to follow, but I think I'll pick it up anyway. It looks like fun (even if the hair...fin...things are kinda strange). Wish I could help you with the image hosting thing, but I've never used anything but photobucket. (Reply to this)

	blake_reitz 2009-08-13 01:58 am UTC (link)
	I rather like his head frills. They remind me of an Aztec god, or maybe the spitting dinosaur from Jurassic Park. Plus, when they're folded down they look a little like the black helmet of Marvel G1 Megs. (Reply to this)

	tahngarth 2009-08-13 09:31 am UTC (link)
	I thought Megatron:Origin was decent, but could have been a lot better. The art is painfully inconsistent, and some of the storytelling is weak. Then again, it was a leftover Dreamweave title... (Reply to this)

	chaoswolf1982.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 02:14 pm UTC (link)
	huge spiky robot-hair... ...it's Gokutron. (Reply to this)