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trueredorion (trueredorion) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-28 17:19:00

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char: agent orange/larfleeze, char: fatality/yrra cynril, char: green lantern/hal jordan, char: green lantern/john stewart, char: sinestro, creator: eddy barrows, creator: geoff johns, creator: philip tan, publisher: dc comics, title: green lantern

Green Lantern #41: Agent Orange Part 3
4 pages from GL #41.

Fatality saves John:

So does this mean Sinestro was in love with Abin?:

"Love will die"

Hal makes a deal with Larfleeze:

Larfleeze's backstory is basically billions of years he was a member of a group of five thieves who pulled a heist on Maltus, among the valuables they stole was map written by Krona which led to the Orange Lantern on Okarra. Once they reached the Lantern they started fighting and the Guardians showed up looking for a box they'd also stolen. To make a short story shorter, he killed his friends and agreed to a deal: he get's the Lantern and the Vega System, the Guardians get the box (which contained Parallax pre-CPB) and him staying put.

After story time Hal loses his hand:

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statham1986
2009-05-29 03:58 am UTC (link)

Okay, so, in general, am I the only one a little confused by what Johns is attempting to establish in the relationship between the various coloured rings and their owners?

I understand that Willpower is capable of being harnessed and used, as is compassion, meaning that the users essentially control the ring, but Johns spoke about the further away the ring colour gets from the center of the spectrum, the harder the ring is to control, and the more likely it is to control you. Rage makes sense, because people traditionally lose themselves to that uncontrollably. But love? Love's hardly incredibly overpowering, at least not in the same sense as rage, and I can't understand exactly how these rings control their users. Fear, on the other hand, can absolutely control a person, so, by rights, shouldn't those rings control their users, really?

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	darklorelei 2009-05-29 05:10 am UTC (link)
	I've been thinking that Love is just a PC way of saying Lust. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	comicoz 2009-05-29 07:40 am UTC (link)
	I have a lot of male friends who feel love robs them of all choice. Us guys are silly like that. Perhaps it's like that first crush love where you'd gladly chew off your hand if it would make things better? (Reply to this) (Parent)

(Anonymous)
2009-05-29 07:09 am UTC (link)

I don't think you've ever been in love. It is, frankly, overpowering. You find yourself unable to sleep when they're unhappy or angry, you find yourself unable to think if they leave you. Love is a bonding between people that leaves you in physical pain when it ends.

I'm not trying to sound like a romantic, but that's what love feels like. To crassly suggest that what the Sapphires are about is lust is to ignore the actual nature of the emotion involved.

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	statham1986 2009-05-29 08:48 am UTC (link)
	Given that I've been with someone going on six years, now, I beg to differ. I completely agree with what you're saying, and love definitely can do that to a person, but I just don't see it as being as powerful or controlling a force as rage, somehow, and therefore, I struggle to comprehend exactly how these rings control their users. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

ashtoreth
2009-05-29 02:10 pm UTC (link)

I would argue that love is more controlling than rage. Most crimes are crimes of passion.

And you might be in love, but if it's been unthreatened you might not know how terrible it can be if your lover cheated on you or told you it was over. You're cruising along all intellectually questioning and WHAM! It's like someone literally took parts of your body away. You go from a normal person to someone seriously considering murdering another or yourself.

All rage does is make people already brutal more brutal.

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lacunatattoo
2009-05-29 03:08 pm UTC (link)

I made an account solely to respond to this.

While I would never tell you you're not in love, I will say this much: love is never as controlling as when the object of your affection is suddenly absent, whatever the nature of the loss. Even after you question everything you feel on a purely functional, psychological, and existential basis, and are still compelled by that love to act in a particular way, do (or not do) a particular thing. When that much is true, then maybe you'll understand. Absence doesn't necessarily make the heart grow fonder, but it certainly reveals the truth of your feelings.

Love is as powerful as rage, and it lasts much, much longer. In fact, feelings of love can largely be identified as the controlling, motivating factors behind the same feelings that empower every other ring color. Well, except maybe Black.

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jlroberson
2009-05-29 10:57 pm UTC (link)

Love can set off all those other emotions. That's one thing.

Another is that you can do something in the name of that which you love, to defend him, her or it. That would be in the area of hope or compassion. But also to protect your own interests thereof.

Which would mean that one active manifestation of it would in fact be as a form of greed. As is jealousy, which comes from fear. In fact, love is a pretty fragile emotion, rather more like a complex of the rest, held by belief--willpower--and easily disturbed if anything is out of balance.

What love inspires you to do in positive senses are forms of generosity, which is something based in compassion. This saved the world in OUTBREAKS OF VIOLETS. But I am not sure if sending chocolates and saying "I like your hat!" will help with, say, the Red Lanterns or Sinestro.

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	jlroberson 2009-05-29 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	Also, this explains why the Blue Lanterns are such a bunch of freakin' hippies. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	comicoz 2009-05-30 11:16 am UTC (link)
	"But I am not sure if sending chocolates and saying "I like your hat!" will help with, say, the Red Lanterns or Sinestro" I was seriously laughing out loud reading that. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Fear
(Anonymous)
2009-05-30 02:08 pm UTC (link)

I think the difference is not whether they can completely vontrol the user but how easily do. There is stuff you are afraid of, but you face up to it. Then there is sheer mind-numbing terror. (This is why the giant yellow space bug can control people - but the rings don't)

Love and Rage often drive you to do things, and impair you're judgement.

I am suprised compassion is further from the centre than hope though.

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