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interrobamf (interrobamf) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-11 14:02:00

Entry tags:

creator: tony daniel, title: batman

Character development? Not when Tony Daniel's on the job!

Edward Nygma was just caught in a bomb blast.

To prevent spoilers, please do not put in a tag for the Riddler.

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	manofbats 2009-11-11 08:15 pm UTC (link)
	I don't get the character development jab. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-11-11 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	He was currently reformed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	sherkahn 2009-11-11 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	And you were doing so good on the side of the angels, Edward. Dammit. (Reply to this)

	ex_stig213 2009-11-11 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	YESSS! THANK YOU TONY DANIEL! No more lame-ass-can't-get-anything-right-missing-his-balls-Dini-Riddler. At last we get the real Eddie, the masterful Eddie, the Eddie of "When Is A Door" back. If Daniel is going to make this permanent, here's to him, I say! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-11 08:31 pm UTC (link)
	Glad to see someone else didn't like the Riddler who did nothing but act as the butt of a joke. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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statham1986
2009-11-12 02:46 pm UTC (link)

THIS.

I liked the idea of Eddie going straight and not being a villain, anymore, but why the HELL did Dini turn him into an absolute fucktard in the process?

For instance, the issue included in this week's Private Casebook paperback, where Eddie is duped like a moron and is seen to rely on internet chatrooms for clues - WHAT THE FUCK? I mean, Hell, Loeb was a shit writer, but he at least attempted to put Riddler back on top of his game. Dini just shat all over the character, just like making Zatanna play second fiddle to Bruce for the purpose of a potential romance.

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	pyrotwilight 2009-11-11 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	And Enigma (from Trinity) just became an even more heroic character now. (Reply to this)

killermoth1
2009-11-11 08:28 pm UTC (link)

Is Tony Daniel just doing this to screw with me specifically? Is EVERYTHING so black and white to him? Investigative Riddler was the best thing to happen to the character in years!

Oh, and of course he even has a horribly wrinkled face, evil eyes and huge smile, because we all know you aren't evil without one!

Grrr, I wish comic artists would take a page from Monster, a villain can be far more creepy with simply an innocent smile on their face, or in Riddler's case a really smug one.

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	killermoth1 2009-11-11 08:31 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, and just to note I wasn't happy with how Dini wrote detective Riddler, but the prospect of Riddler being smart enough to realise that he can compete with Batman without going to Arkham was great. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bluejaybirdie 2009-11-11 08:30 pm UTC (link)
	What the hell? Development aside, Eddie looks like the Joker, not the Riddler! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	darkknightjrk 2009-11-12 12:33 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, when I was reading this, I instantly thought, "Wait, when did The Joker come back?" (Reply to this) (Parent)

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	icon_uk 2009-11-11 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Nutjob Riddler can be enormous fun when done well, so I'll give this a chance, but to replace the interesting and complex "good-guy... kinda" Riddler with this one, the payoff had better be bloody spectacular, nothing less than kinky deathtraps for all available boy wonders past and present will do! (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	foxhack 2009-11-11 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	That's right, bye bye personality. Bye bye years of character development. Shit's ridiculous. And getting old. I'm going to treat this guy as a half-assed clone, the good Eddie is now dead for good. -_- (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	mullon 2009-11-11 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	Oh goddammit, why? The new Riddler was interesting, he actually had development. Screw you Daniel! (Reply to this)

	nezchan 2009-11-11 10:05 pm UTC (link)
	"...I'm baaaaack!" ...and so are all four hundred of my teeth! (Reply to this)

	angelophile 2009-11-11 10:10 pm UTC (link)
	Do you think you could perhaps change the title of this post? In combination with the character tags, it's rather spoilery, if not specifically so. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	dorksidefiker 2009-11-11 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	Hopefully this won't see the return of Looks like A Tranny Riddler as brought to us by that guy from The Real World. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	parsimonia 2009-11-11 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	NOOOO! Goddamn it, Tony Daniel! ARG. I like my Riddler reformed! (Reply to this)

	seriousfic 2009-11-11 11:51 pm UTC (link)
	"dastardly definer of definition" ...what the fuck does that MEAN? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	strannik01 2009-11-12 01:14 am UTC (link)
	On the bright side, I can't recall the last time our dear comm has been so divided over a plot. I mean, I am not saying that we always agree on everything (because we clearly don't), but usually, one side is visibly larger than the other. It's nice to see a more 50/50ish split :) (Reply to this)

	GODDAMMIT box_in_the_box 2009-11-12 02:55 am UTC (link)
	WHY I DO NOT LIKE THIS (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	pmagod 2009-11-12 03:23 am UTC (link)
	black lantern? he looks zombie-ish (Reply to this)

psychop_rex
2009-11-12 08:12 am UTC (link)

May I point out two things:

1: While I admit that the laws of comic book melodrama all seem to be pointing towards Eddie having regained his memory and his twisted criminal side, we don't KNOW that this is the case. He might simply have been convinced that his number was up when the bomb-blast hit him, and is going 'YES! I survived!' in his own over-the-top fashion.

2: Assuming for the moment that his supervillainish side HAS returned, may I point out that nobody KNOWS this except him. The world still thinks he's gone straight, or, at least, is no more suspicious of him now than in ever was after his reformation. Now, if he's smart, this gives him a distinct advantage, and a whole new way to play games with Batman and the cops - as long as he's careful, nobody need know that the old Riddler is back. He can taunt the law with a whole new type of riddles - for instance, set up a sort of riddle-crime that ONLY HE can solve, and while the cops and the Caped Crusader are scratching their respective noggins, he can swoop in and 'solve' the case himself (pinning the guilt on someone else, of course), which both satisfies his need to lord it over everybody with his mental acuity and gives him a whole lot of time in the spotlight, with the additional bonus that THIS time, he doesn't have to go back to Arkham! Of course, it's anyone's guess as to just how long he could pull this off, but it could certainly lead to a series of interesting stories. What if, for instance, while he's in the middle of pulling off one of these stunts, someone hires him to solve a casewhich directly conflicts with his own ends, but, for some reason, he also really wants to solve, if for no other reason than his pride? He'd have to juggle his glorious cop-humiliation scheme with an actual attempt to solve an actual mystery - his pride at his abilities as the Riddler would be in direct conflict with his pride at his own intellect. It could be fascinating.

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	nagaoka 2009-11-12 02:47 pm UTC (link)
	....I didn't realize that was Eddie when I first saw this. My heart is broken. (Reply to this)

	janegray 2009-11-12 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	D: ;_; (Reply to this)