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Tweak says, "Wangoballwime"

MarinaNova NPCs (marinanova_npc) wrote in marinanova,
@ 2016-10-31 12:41:00

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:mary wesson, :mingle, aidan reilly, aigis, charlotte charles, felix gaeta, ianto jones, jack harkness, jezebel mephistopheles, jim kirk, john constatine, kanji tatsumi, kitty pryde (aoa), lelouch vi britannia, malcolm reynolds, martha jones, nico di angelo, pavel chekov (au), peter parker (stnas), ryou kurokiba, sarah williams, spencer reid, spike, suzaku kururugi, the doctor (ten), ton phanan, wade wilson

Day 400 — Spooky Anniversary Mingle

(( OOC: Happy Halloween - sort of! EVENT INFO ))

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foreverjack
2016-11-05 05:07 am UTC (link)

Oh, he's been around far too long for you to catch him that way, Spike!

He grins. "Of course they do. I was just trying to suss out the reasoning behind it. Christmas armistice makes a lot of sense.

"But honestly..." He waves an arm round at the pumpkins, ranging from amazing to his own inept attempt, the apple bobbing, the Jersey Devil with tail, the bots patiently waiting not far away to paint people's faces... "You don't find this all rather tame? I do, and I'm not even someone in the business of scaring people for a living!"

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chipswiththat
2016-11-05 05:12 am UTC (link)

It was worth a try.

As for the display, he takes a moment to look around and take it in, really think about what he feels about all this because for some reason he hasn't yet. It's always just been a thing, nothing worth analyzing, but if talking about it can keep Jack off his back with the other thing, then he's more than willing to indulge.

"Not too sure they're really trying to scare anyone here, Jack." But if they are, yeah, lame attempt. "It's all a bit... nostalgic. You've noticed the too real costumes?"

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	foreverjack 2016-11-05 05:24 pm UTC (link)
	Well, it might keep Jack off his back for a minute or two, but he's going to ask about it eventually! "Well, no, but..." He studies Spike, curious because that sounds like specific nostalgia. "Yeah, I've noticed. You've seen something like that before?" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

chipswiththat
2016-11-06 06:59 am UTC (link)

"Oh yeah. Couple of years ago — a follower of Janus thought it'd be a hoot and a half to spread some Halloween chaos. He was right."

Even with the soul he can't help but smile at the memory. That was a fun night, right up until the end of it.

"Don't look like they're quite as realistic as those costumes were, though. Unless you've seen some real ghouls and goblins scurry around."

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foreverjack
2016-11-07 03:18 am UTC (link)

"Janus, huh?" He's not particularly hot on his Greek mythology, but Janus, with his two faces looking into the past and the future - oh yes, he's aware of him! He can actually believe there might be people who worship him.

"Well, Nico's a ghost and Kanji is Frankenstein's monster, but they both seem to be themselves otherwise and not a threat to anyone. I take it that wasn't the case with your guy?"

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	chipswiththat 2016-11-07 03:52 am UTC (link)
	"Oh no. Not in the least. We got lucky with this one, I would've guessed total transformation would've been right down the Wardens alley." Said with emphasis, like he's relieved and disappointed all at once. Not going to say no to some excitement around here, but it has to be the right kind. No more hurting people he begrudgingly cares about. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	foreverjack 2016-11-07 03:03 pm UTC (link)
	"Yeah, seems more their style, doesn't it? Perhaps they're letting us off because it's a special day? Or perhaps they're just softening us up for the next time." A trifle grim, there, because some of the AIs' transformations have been really brutal, and Ianto the serial killer is still way too close in the past for comfort. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chipswiththat 2016-11-07 03:30 pm UTC (link)
	"My money would be on the latter." Pessimistic, perhaps, but whatever. It's been proven true more often than not and he for one won't take anything for granted — half expects to wake up one morning in a bloody bed next to a cold body because why wouldn't they do that? "Doesn't seem like much of a point agonizing over that tonight." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

foreverjack
2016-11-07 04:26 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, Jack's had his share too of waking up of a morning and wondering just what's going to greet him this time. He strongly suspects their captors have a good deal of fun things left to do to him.

"I try not to agonise too much over anything, really," he grins, because hey, life's too short, even if it's eternal!

Except that occasionally there are things you do actually have to address, and this brings one of those to mind.

"So, now that we've got the niceties out of the way, do you want to talk about whatever the hell happened the other night at the arcade?"

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	chipswiththat 2016-11-07 04:31 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, there it is. He was waiting for this and still it makes him shift his weight anxiously, pat himself down for cigarettes and taking a too-long moment to light one. The response, when it finally comes, is terse. "You know what happened." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	foreverjack 2016-11-07 04:38 pm UTC (link)
	"No. I don't. Not for sure." And he might not be fidgeting like Spike is, but that doesn't mean he's not anxious about it. They got so close, and then something got in the way like it always seems to. "Tell me what happened, now that you have your own words to use." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

chipswiththat
2016-11-07 05:46 pm UTC (link)

Spike takes a drag off the cigarette, releasing the smoke in a restless, nervous fashion. He'd rather fight it out and forget about it but that doesn't work in the long run, not even with Jack. It's frustrating, is what it is, having to use his big boy words and actually talk about his feelings.

"You have no idea, do you? The effect you have on people. The effect you have on me."

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foreverjack
2016-11-08 03:12 am UTC (link)

Hell, they'd both rather just fight or fuck it out, but yeah, that's not what they need here. It's not at all easy for either of them, but Jack is absolutely determined to make this work and if this is what needs to be done? He'll do it.

He watches Spike, momentarily transported back to the pleasure prison and Reid saying something very similar to him. Even though he senses that Spike's problem with him isn't quite the same as Reid's.

His mouth twists wryly. "I'm starting to get an idea." He lifts an eyebrow. "I make you lose control, and you don't like that, right?"

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chipswiththat
2016-11-08 03:36 am UTC (link)

"I can't afford that."

Which is the problem, really. Before the soul he wouldn't have cared as much if he accidentally or intentionally killed Jack in the process, but now? He can't risk it. If it means them never getting this tension worked out then so be it. The price is too steep.

"Everything about you- it's so much. It's overpowering. Just the way you smell-"

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foreverjack
2016-11-08 04:19 am UTC (link)

It's certainly not the first time in his long life that someone's found him just too much, but he can't remember the last time or how (if) he managed to overcome it. But he's nothing if not determined, and he's not going to just give up on this. Not when it's something that could bring them both (and Ianto) so much pleasure.

"Not much I can do about the pheromones, I'm afraid, but... Well. I don't know how to help you stay in control, but there are ways of making sure you can't hurt me if you lose it."

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	chipswiththat 2016-11-08 04:33 am UTC (link)
	It's fucking ridiculous that he even has this problem around Jack. He's gotten high off Slayer blood before but this is like concentre, too potent to handle more than in small doses and this without even biting. It's frightening. Spike doesn't like to be frightened, so of course they need to find a way around this. "What do you have in mind?" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

foreverjack
2016-11-08 04:46 am UTC (link)

It's kind of gratifying in a way, even if it's incredibly frustrating in another!

"Chains? A spell? Or just having someone else around." He leans back in his chair, folding his arms, working on the problem.

"Basically, what it comes down to is that someone has to stay in control. If it's not you, then it needs to be me - or someone else." His lips twitch. "It's not like we don't have someone else on hand, after all."

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chipswiththat
2016-11-08 04:54 am UTC (link)

That all sounds good on paper, but Spike can already see the problems cropping up. Chains strong enough to hold him wouldn't really read sexy as far as he's concerned. More like torture and he's pretty sure that's not the route Jack wants to take. Spell seems even trickier — does he have to be brainwashed into this? Who would they involve? One of the lit'le witches that helped in putting the soul back in him? Not to mention messing with magic is asking for trouble, even if you're ready and willing to go through that.

"I could kill you both before you even knew I lost it." So no, having Ianto on guard is a no go, especially in such a distracting, unguarded moment. "I think you're coming at this too big, anyway. We need safety measures, not a bloody production."

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	foreverjack 2016-11-08 05:16 am UTC (link)
	Jack gives him an exasperated look. "Spike, you can't have it both ways. You can't talk about killing us both and then say I'm thinking too big!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	chipswiththat 2016-11-08 05:19 am UTC (link)
	"Is that really how you want to go about this? Chains and magic spells?" Think about it. Think about how that really would play out, with their relationship, Spike's history. "Carry a crucifix. Hell, carry a spray bottle of holy water or... or a stake, for all I care. I need something to snap me out of it, not to be brainwashed or chained up like a monster." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

foreverjack
2016-11-08 05:47 am UTC (link)

"Well, if you already had a solution, why didn't you just come out with it at the start!" he demands, rather frustrated, because his own solutions made sense to him, coming at control from a BDSM background, and he forgot that Spike doesn't have that background and still doesn't really seem to get what it's all about either.

He takes a breath, determined to meet Spike halfway. "I'm sorry if I made it seem like I was treating you as a monster. I don't think of you as a monster, okay? I never did. But I can see how that might make you feel I was."

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chipswiththat
2016-11-08 05:55 am UTC (link)

"You were the one who brought it up!"

Exasperated, turning back to the cigarette for comfort. Chances are he'll never understand the BDSM thing and that's entirely because to him, pain and control and torture no matter how playful is all means to an end. It's not sexual to him, it's death, it's information extraction, it's clawing your way to the top of the pecking order. It has nothing to do with love. Maybe he could've gotten into it in some fashion before the soul, but now? It's incredibly unlikely.

"I don't blame you. Okay? It's fine." He knows what he is. What he'll never stop being.

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foreverjack
2016-11-08 03:55 pm UTC (link)

It's obviously not fine, or he wouldn't keep saying it, and Jack's getting as frustrated as he is. "So what you're saying is, letting me chain you or find some sort of way to negate your superior strength would make you feel like I'm treating you with a monster - yet you're fine with me throwing holy water at you, or burning you with a crucifix, or even threatening you with a stake! That doesn't even make any sense!"

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chipswiththat
2016-11-08 05:55 pm UTC (link)

"There's a difference, alright! If you have to chain me up from the very start, there's no trust!"

And that's the problem. He understands the need for safety measures, sure. Getting a jolt of electricity when he's crossing a line is one thing, being shackled down from the very beginning is another and if Jack can't see the difference then Spike's honestly not sure how much further this can go.

"There's a difference in treating me like I'm a threat and being prepared for me becoming one."

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foreverjack
2016-11-08 06:44 pm UTC (link)

Now, they may be coming at this from very different angles, but trust? That's one thing that Jack feels deeply about, and - yeah - he knows Spike does too. And realising that helps him finally (he hopes) work out where Spike's coming from on this. For him, letting himself be restrained would feel like his choice; he'd be giving up control - good old-fashioned power exchange. But to Spike, it would feel like he was being given no choice; that his power was being taken.

"Right!" he says, letting out a slightly explosive breath. "So it's about the different between us taking away your control from the start, or letting you control yourself but with measures in place to help you get back your control if you lose it. Right?

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