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Lacus Clyne (fields_of_hope) wrote in marinanova,
@ 2012-07-02 20:02:00

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[video | open] Defense Force... announcement thing.
Good day, Marina-- or, I suppose, Marina Nova. I hope everyone is adjusting as well as can be expected. We've suffered some tremendous losses [herself very much included,] but I am certain we will be able to manage things as well as possible.

With regards to the Defense Force -- with Suzaku Kururugi among those lost, and the Wardens confirming for me that weapons and life sign monitoring are no longer available -- I would like to make a proposal. [and she's going to make it openly, so anyone can weigh in... trolls she can handle, and it's worth the risk to give everyone a chance to speak.]

Although I believed strongly in Suzaku and what he did with the Force, there was something troubling me. In some cases, members' primary motivation for joining was to obtain a weapon. And while I know for a fact that Suzaku would not admit anyone who was not suitable, it nonetheless seems as though such a team should have members whose primary reason for joining is belief in its purpose. And further, I believe that the invasion of privacy that the former Defense Force utilized for monitoring life signs made inmates uneasy. I know I had my own questions about such methodology, but it was not my team and thus not my place to debate what was in place.

However, now that many things have begun anew, I am wondering if there are those among us who believe strongly enough in protecting others that they would agree to do so without the promise of a weapon, or any such personal gain. A new leader would need to be elected, and I would be happy to oversee the process if the potential members would like. Any and all proposals will be considered.

With regards to weaponry and special abilities for those who would use them in defense of themselves or others, that is a battle that I will continue to fight with the Wardens, regardless of whether there is a formal Defense Force. I believe in our members, and all of you will have my full support regardless of the status of the organization as a whole.

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	fields_of_hope 2012-07-03 01:09 am UTC (link)
	If you're referring to offensive capabilities in a physical capacity, you might find your assessment correct. However, at home I am the leader of the military organization on my space colonies. I became so after forming the coup that defeated both sides of our recent wars when the opposing leaders sought to engage in genocide. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-03 01:16 am UTC (link)
	So you are petitioning for leadership? [Not exactly dripping with impressed.] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fields_of_hope 2012-07-03 01:19 am UTC (link)
	I certainly would be glad to take it up, if the members elect to do so. However, I believe my point was that it is shortsighted to assume that one's ability to physically fight is the only attribute that can make them of use to an organization like the Defense Force. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-03 01:21 am UTC (link)
	I don't think that. But there were people patrolling who shouldn't have been. [Like Yuuri by her estimation...or Reid.] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fields_of_hope 2012-07-03 01:45 am UTC (link)
	Suzaku positioned them there because of their abilities. I understand the concern, however on many levels we must trust our teammates to know their own capabilities, and take comfort that there are those who would support them should they need it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-03 01:49 am UTC (link)
	How very diplomatic. [She is so far from Magneto.] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fields_of_hope 2012-07-03 01:53 am UTC (link)
	Diplomacy has its purpose, of course. I can imagine it being needed in an organization of such powerful and principled individuals. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-03 01:55 am UTC (link)
	It's not some schoolyard team where everyone needs to get their turn at bat and to be encouraged even when they suck. It's serious. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

fields_of_hope
2012-07-03 02:03 am UTC (link)

[ah.]

Your concern for the other members' safety is something I certainly can relate to. I'm sure no one would object to your proposal of more training. But any one of us could encounter something we are unprepared for or unable to fight, given the wide variety of worlds we come from. Even the most experienced and powerful of us.

I'm sure you can understand why I feel that members should self assess, to some degree, their preparedness for patrolling, or at minimum be given a chance to prove themselves. If there isn't mutual trust in such an organization, it will crumble.

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	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-03 02:14 am UTC (link)
	Then why even have a leader? It's not that I think anyone on the team is useless. [Probably.] But someone has to assess how we can be best utilized and people don't always see themselves accurately. [She didn't really mean to be doing this...] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fields_of_hope 2012-07-03 02:19 am UTC (link)
	I think that is exactly why we need a leader. Someone who can assess the members, prospective members and current, discuss their abilities with them, help them to find their best role within the organization. I believe the members should trust and support one another; certainly one type of support is helping someone to improve themselves. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

kitty_has_claws
2012-07-03 06:33 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, a second ago you were pro-self-evaluations.

[Though she'd used a modifier. She noticed Lacus' language was very careful. The girl struck her as a politician. That fit with being a leader in her world. But in the world Kitty had come to know the leaders were military leaders and warlords and overlords. They didn't use careful language. They said things simply and directly and they acted more than they spoke.

Kitty has never been able to wrap her mind around Lacus. At first she thought the girl was innocent, naive, and maybe not too bright. She was proven wrong, and it left her with a bad taste in her mouth ever since. She just can't relate to someone as optimistic and "bright" as this. She thinks there's more. Something hidden. Issues? Insecurities? Something more dangerous? An agenda?

Lacus passed the psyche evaluation and that was something. Suzaku trusted her. Neil trusted her. And Kitty liked both of them a lot. Trusted them enough. But even with that giving the pink-haired girl bonus points the young mutant continues to analyze her. Maybe over-analyze her. She just can't quite figure Lacus out and that leaves her uneasy. And being uneasiness makes her wary.

Trust was hard where she was from and what she had of it was broken—fatally. She doesn't—can't—give it away easily. As much as she might want it or need it.

She wants a world where people can be like Lacus at face value. She just can't believe it already exists.]

And I'm all for trust, but it has to be built. You can't just throw people together and expect it to just happen because you say so.

Do we even all have common goals? Like you mentioned some people were just in it for the artillery. But some people were saying we were working for Sentience before. Was that just misperception [madam PR rep] or was that happening? [Because as far as she's concerned overthrowing the wardens should be as much a part of their goals as protecting inmates from internal threats.]

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fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 07:32 pm UTC (link)

Being in favor of self-assessment doesn't mean I would be in favor of it without question or thought.

And as for trust, it is indeed built over time. But it will never begin to form if both parties are not open to it. Very few of us have the benefit of knowing one another prior to our arrival, and so the only way to begin is to believe in what Suzaku and Gino began and trust, at least a little, in their judgment to allow us on the Force. But this, as well, requires consideration. Trust should not be blind, but neither should it be a Catch-22 of not giving people a chance because of prior inexperience with them.

As far as the goals, I certainly would think that's open to the direction of the new leader, whoever that may be. But as to whether we were working for Sentience -- no, I don't believe that was the case, though I can understand why that became a perception. As I said, it was a point that gave me pause. However, eliminating the connection between the Wardens and the Defense Force will only help that perception, as well as establish that, hopefully, those who join will be doing so for reasons of personal convictions rather than personal gain.

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kitty_has_claws
2012-07-04 09:41 pm UTC (link)

[She stays quiet while Lacus speaks, listening to her words. She can't really disagree with any of it. And maybe she was trying to do just that—disagree. Then again, everything is so balanced and neutral she's not sure what direction it gives to agree with either.]

Personal convictions that may or may not be in line with each others or our new leader's whomever that may be?

[She takes a deep breath. This isn't what she wants to be doing right now. Lacus isn't her enemy. She needs to refocus her approach.]

We shouldn't be talking about this now. We're not in a stable enough place for elections. We need a leader, but we don't have one. Fine. Option two we just need a coordinator for the moment. [~~I couldn't resist.~~]

We need to make sure the dome is secure. We don't know anything about this space that we didn't hear from the wardens or the information they gave us, and I'm not prepared to trust them. We should check it out for ourselves. We need to split up in groups to analyze each sector while dispatch keeps everyone organized. We also need to let people know who to call if they are in distress like that shouting kid on the island.

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fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 09:49 pm UTC (link)

Agreed. [On all fronts but that first snide remark, really, and we're not talking about that.] If I were sure who among our former roster were available, it would be easy to divide the responsibilities, but unfortunately we have no way of knowing other than those who responded here.

I can handle creating a secure encryption for the time being. Do you have a handful of others among the are accounted for that would be appropriate leaders for the expeditions you suggest?

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kitty_has_claws
2012-07-04 10:13 pm UTC (link)

I can take a group. That leaves four more for now. The teams in sectors adjacent to six can report whatever they learn about the wall.

Give me a sec. [She reviews the other conversations. Some voices she recognizes better than others. Varying amounts of contact and second hand knowledge.]

Gino. He doesn't remember forming the force, but he's back. He's willing.

Cain. [She's worked along side him before.] He's been on the force for awhile. He seems solid.

Tear for the same reason.

[It gets harder from there. She hears Reid's voice playing back. He's upset, but she doesn't let it distract her long. She needs two more names. Some of the others are so young. Maybe an odd observation for a fellow teenager to be making let alone holding against them. She also doesn't know everyone or their abilities, but she presses on. If they aren't the leader of the group it doesn't mean they won't be in a group.]

Angel. [She'd done little more than troll the man, but she knew Buffy and Faith were close to him and while she knew both of them better before they returned without memories, she'd trusted their judgement once, and the way he was speaking now impressed her.]

And Robin. [Another one of the young choices, but she just felt like he was a leader probably more so than herself really. She believed him when he said he'd been in similar work before.]

If they agree. It probably makes sense for them to pick their own teams and balance strength with investigative knowledge. For this if we need to bring in people we trust who haven't officially been cleared to join I say we do.

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fields_of_hope
2012-07-04 10:28 pm UTC (link)

[She nods along with each name. Angel aside, she knows them all to be excellent choices, and she has no issue taking Kitty at her word about the last.] As you say. And I will gather whatever willing dispatch members remain to the education center, as Cain suggested as the closes approximation for HQ.

Does reporting back every half hour with updates seem sufficient to you? I will have the encryption complete by then.

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kitty_has_claws
2012-07-04 10:54 pm UTC (link)

Sounds good. I'm sure Rebecca will do it. If she says differently let me know. [And then she'll be persuasive.]

Yes. Anymore and I think it would get in the way. Any less and we could be missing a problem.

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(OOC: And then I forgot that sector 0 existed. That's really sad, but let's move on. Kitty is not as sad as I am. So, pretend she said this in that above tag too!)

[Finally, she selects the last name.]

Stephanie. [She's not sure she sees the girl as a leader or not, but she thinks she's competent, and she doesn't know the rest as well. She thinks the team aspect will help balance these points out.]

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	fields_of_hope 2012-07-04 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	[Oh, Lacus has a good track record persuading Rebecca on her own.] Thank you. I'll call her. [her voice softens, but not more than a bit. She's in business mode, but doesn't want to keep this to herself. Neil had many other friends too.] Kitty, there's something you should know, before you set off. Neil didn't come with us. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

kitty_has_claws
2012-07-04 11:40 pm UTC (link)

He didn't...?

[But as soon as she starts to ask she gets it. Neil is gone. Lost in the dimensional stabilizer or whatever the wardens are calling it these days. She's never been sure what that means or what she wants it to mean. She used to believe they were home again by some strange fluke. There's no comfort in that thought today.

After all, they were "death buddies."]

Oh. [Her voice is soft.] I'm sorry. [She means it too.]

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	fields_of_hope 2012-07-04 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	As am I. [She absolutely doesn't presume she valued Neil's presence more than anyone else, or that she's the only one in pain.] Good hunting, Kitty. I'll call you with the encryption code within twenty minutes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_has_claws 2012-07-04 11:55 pm UTC (link)
	[A nod. Right. They have work.] I'll talk to the other team leaders. [Assuming they are prepared to be that.] (Reply to this) (Parent)

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