Apr. 25th, 2024


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What We Weading...Thursday?

 

I gave up on Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky.  I usually self-select better and don't DNF things, but this was the first of his books I'd read, and he's just not the sort of writer that I enjoy overmuch.  Very creative worldbuilding, very nice hardish science, but...gosh, I got about 17% in and there wasn't yet a character I knew enough about to care what happened to them.  And that's just a deathknell for me:  I need good characterization.  And my loan was expiring, and it was SO LONG of a book, and I was reading reviews and heard how there was a lot of churn in characters and I just...decided to part ways with it.

I DID finish Four Lost Cities by Annalee Newitz, which was good nonfiction about "abandoned" ancient metropolises.  I read books like that for insights into how different cultures arrange themselves, and this book did a good job of that.  It did suffer from the usual archaeology problem of them just...not knowing exactly what had happened because there were no written records, but still...interesting read.

Now I am reading The Tainted Cup by Robert Jackson Bennett,(uuuuuh fantasy Sherlockian mystery in a world that's a cross between Standard Eurocentric Medieval, Morrowind, and Pacific Rim?  I've yet to figure out if I'm going to find the main detectives boring and wish that the setting had some different main characters) and Armageddon Science: The Science of Mass Destruction by Brian Clegg (nonfiction about various weapons of mass destruction and apocalypse scenarios.) The former came up on my library loans, and the second is an actual physical book from my bookshelf that I picked up because watching the Fallout TV show gave me End of the World on the brain. So far Armageddon Science is ok, but he lost points for starting with the DUMBEST and least plausible armageddon scenario: that the LHC would create weird runaway quantum effects that destroy the universe. >_> Not sure what he or his editors were thinking, there.

Apr. 23rd, 2024


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Fallout TV show - more in-depth thinky thoughts - Ep. 2

And away we go, in spoilery fashion, discussing more Interesting Stuff, possible continuity errors, and general overanalyzing of this show.Read more... )

Apr. 21st, 2024


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Fallout TV show - more in-depth thinky thoughts - Ep. 1

Am on my third watch-through of the show, and taking some detailed notes for when I let my Prime sub lapse. Some random interesting things that I picked out on my second (or third) watch-through, and some standing questions. SPOILERS AHOY:
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Apr. 16th, 2024


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Moar thoughts on the Fallout TV show

 

Non spoilery squeeing ahead:  

Read This...

Welp, I've watched this through twice now (I hardly ever watch something twice, folks.)  I will probably watch it through another time, just to take notes and remind myself of what happens when, because I already have both Coop and Lucy in my head sniping at each other and continuing the "we might kill each other, we might end up fucking in an alley" UST vibe that I got from that one scene.  (It was the fingers scene.  Of course it was the fingers scene.)  So there needs to be fanfic, and for that I need reminders of what happened when.

I'd purchase the damned series right now, "TAKE MY MONEY!" style, but of course Amazon won't sell it to me.  And though I loved it, I don't love it enough to lease it from Amazon forever.  So, before my month of Prime runs out, I'll watch again and take notes.

So yeah.  I loved it.  I was incredibly surprised how much I loved it.  Fallout is TRICKY.  It's tricky to do both goofy retro absurdism and social satire and gratuitous violence in the way that Fallout does and not have it seem ridiculous or overly serious or just...cringe.  But oh.  My god.  They nailed it.  And all the way through, too.  I loved the first episode, admit there were some times where stuff just slowed down (mostly in the flashbacks - though on second watch, the flashbacks were necessary context for all the present day stuff - it was just not quite so interesting, as I knew more about the story Coop was in than he did), but even on second watch, I didn't skip much.  It was beautifully done, wonderfully staged with just gorgeous environments rich in little lore-friendly things in the background.  I kept stopping the stream so I could look closer at computer screens and things on desks, and it was nearly always worth it.  You find little callbacks to the games or to the flashbacks all through the show, and I feel like I'm still catching them.

It was also SMART.  It was a complex tale worked by people who if they were not smart were at least CRAFTY (I'm looking at you, Maximus...I love you, but INT was your dump stat, I get it, it's ok.)  Coop, Norm, Lucy...they were all perceptive planners, and they were rewarded for it.  The plot made sense (and people reacted realistically) all the way through, and for parts where I thought "huh, they didn't explain that....", I can see where explanations are forthcoming.  Even on second watch, i could see how the later reveals still had been worked into the story.  This was just...wonderfully done.  It felt like whole, not riddled with "oh, they won't notice" plot holes.  The writers were obviously huge fans and they made this show look like a game.  The tone, the look, the bits of lore...beautiful.

 

OK, time to get to the spoilery stuff, OH MY GOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THIS COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT PLEASE I'M DYING HERE.

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I loved Lucy from the second she just...hopped on that raider's cock lol.  I loved that they made her adaptable and naive in some ways but matter-of-fact in others.  That she was pushed and pushed but always fought back or pushed through.  Kind but tough in ways that you don't usually see.  Also no doubt traumatized after the end of S1.  (I loved that she shot her mother, because I was afraid that they were just going to drop that thread.)  It'll be interesting to see if they change her any in S2.

And Maximus...such a doofus.  I love that they made the BoS character like...the punching bag and comic relief.  Anyone who watched this show and thought they were glorifying the tincan fascists was like...watching a different show than I did.  Maximus was tough and persistent, but dude was inept and doofy.  Also so achingly broken.  His actor visibly showed when Maximus was putting up his guard.  He'd drop the smile, eyes would flicker around, face would harden.  He masks ALL THE TIME when around the Brotherhood, because he's so used to being hurt and having vulnerability used against him.  He gets to Vault 4 and experiences soft robes and comfy chairs and hot water and he is just so HAPPY.  He is a deprived, starving man, and it shows.  Also a delightfully ruthless one, too.  I thought at first that they were going to leave it unspoken whether he'd really injured Dane or not, and I kind of liked the idea that he HAD, that Dane knew, and that the "I told them you wouldn't hurt a fly" was a sly "I know, but it's ok".  But then he actually fucking sat there and watched a knight die and stole his armor and I was like, "My dude, I am going to enjoy watching you make so many terrible choices, carry on."

And now...for my TED talk.  Because I have so many thoughts on the Ghoul/Cooper.  Walton Goggins just did...SUCH a great job.  Coop is such a good character, in both incarnations, and the more you learn about him, the more you can appreciate the ways the Ghoul has twisted himself over the years.  I expected to like him because he was a ghoul and a bounty hunter and a smartass and an all-around badass.  I did not expect to like him because he's smart and a man who is perilously close to both losing and regaining his humanity.  Smart, because fuck he plans everything.  He watches and waits and looks for weaknesses and then ruthlessly takes advantage of them.  He manipulates everyone with Speech checks and intimidates them with the Terrifying Presence perk.  He's constantly thinking his way around the very few morals he has left.  I need a bulleted list here to describe all this grayness:

  • Very few rules, but clinging to those few rules - He doesn't seem to lie, just avoids telling the truth by answering questions with questions or strategic silences. I also don't think we see him draw first - I think that's a line for him, but watch how he gets around it : the "sherriff", the lead farmer kid...he baits them into drawing on him so he can take them out. It comes across as him being a bloodthirsty asshole (he's obviously enjoying himself in Filly). He knows he's better than them, looks like he's TOYING with them, but I don't think that's it. I think he's still trying to be a good person who doesn't just murder his way through the Wasteland, even though he could. But he also knows how the Wasteland works and that if he can't take care of problems, they'll come back for him later. So, like a good player who's trying to not make their character a murder hobo, he pushes, and those who back down get to live, and those who are stupid die.
  • Lucy gets a lot of his asshole side, but it doesn't see personal - He's an asshole, grade A, no question. But unlike some other folks say, I don't get the sense that it's misogynistic or even personal. She was in his way, and then she was a resource he could exploit. I feel he would have done the same thing to anyone else in that position. Yes, that he was a man dragging along a collared/bound woman does carry some gendered baggage but...well..., I felt they handled that better than they could have. He doesn't treat her with kid gloves, nor does he let her walk all over him. When she mouths off, he pushes back, making her cut up Roger, and when she tries to run he drags her back, and when she bites off his finger, he takes exactly what she took from him. It's shocking, but it's PROPORTIONAL. He's treating her, in some ways, like an equal. Also...I get the sense that he's withholding water and taunting her in such an asshole fashion because he knows where she's going - and selling her will be easier for him if he dehumanizes her, makes her hate him.
  • If it comes down to you or me, I'll always choose me - Yes, the whole "selling Lucy for vials" thing. Again, shocking, and again, he's a selfish asshole willing to destroy someone else to save his own skin. No question. But it's not gratuitous, and it's not his only or original plan. He only does it when he has no choice. From the second he knows his own vials are destroyed, he knows he's got a time-limited side quest going, and he abandons the main quest for it. He has to. He can't just ask her for help, because he knows that she can't help him in time, that she doesn't have enough money, and he doesn't know if she would be willing to help her after he's used her as gulper bait. He takes Lucy with him because again, he's a planner - he doesn't want her to go after the head without him and...well...she's plan B for how to get more vials. He heads to Roger first - he was hoping he'd have some to sell, or maybe he thought the clinic would have some and Roger just got there first. But Roger didn't have any. So, on to plan B: sell the most valuable thing he's got for more vials. Selfish. Cruel. Practical. Utterly understandable knowing what we do about how he sees the world.
  • Waste not want not.... - The cannibalism?  I have a theory on that.  It's staged as if it's just some senseless barbaric thing he does:  he's just killed a man, and he's holding Lucy prisoner, and now he's gonna eat the guy he just murdered?  But.  But.  He looks down at all those empty vials at Roger's side.  He knows Roger's taken at least a few, but it's not working.  It's possible that some of it was taken recently and might still be in Roger's system.  So why would he go cannibal right then, right there, when, again, he's got a TIME SENSITIVE SIDE QUEST RUNNING?  It's not JUST for extra food to take along, he actually cut deep in and then ate something RIGHT THERE.  I think it was a way for him to try to recover some of the medicine Roger had taken.  If he was eating either the liver or the kidneys, where drugs are usually collected form the bloodstream and broken down?  That would actually make a lot of sense.  
  • Flashes of kindness, well-hidden and only when he could afford to - yes, the dogs. The chicken. I'd argue that him playing with Maximus rather than killing him (I mean, think of the last fight, in the hallway: he COULD have killed Maximus, obviously) was also kindness, though I can't say why he'd do it other than Maximus having plot armor - maybe Maximus came off as too much of a kid. He also saved Lucy's life by pulling her out of the lake - he could have just let her drown, but he didn't. Also, most obviously and poignantly: Roger. Think of how that scene played out: "do you remember what food used to taste like?/Apple pie and ice cream." Roger smiles, laughs, thinking of his mom's cooking, he turns and looks at Lucy...and that's when Coop shoots. He could have just killed Roger right to his face, but he distracted him, made him think of a good memory, waited until he wouldn't see it coming. It didn't cost him anything, but he did it anyway. Also...it was not clear if he knew that Lucy was aiming at her mother, in that last scene. If he didn't, then he let her take the shot, trusting that either she wouldn't kill him or that she deserved to have that shot at him, for what he'd done.

I'm interested also in what the show didn't resolve:  Why had Moldaver not aged?  Where was Coop riding off to after the bomb fell so fast, when he knew that they were too close to the blasts (my guess:  he was trying like hell to get Janey to his wife, because he knew her plan was to get Janey to a vault.  Him wanting to know where his family was makes it sound like he succeeded, but why does he not know where they are?)  Are they in Vault 31 with the rest of Bud's Buds (and now...with Norm?)  Or was the "Vault that manages all the other vaults" something we haven't seen yet?  And whaaaaat awaits our heroes in New Vegas?  :DDDD

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