No, see, that's not the solution, not to join. If you have a deep moral objection to something, the solution is not to ignore it. The solution is to say so, clearly, and to keep saying so, until the point is received. People have been extremely calm. I've seen minimal profanity and name-calling. What I have seen is intense -- and rightly so -- anger.

It doesn't matter how educated you are. There is no excuse for appropriating the mass murder of innocents for your personal enjoyment. It's wrong. You're not being attacked. You're being reprimanded, corrected, and you're hearing what people think. People think you're wrong. That's not an attack.

Don't be so hypocritical as to say "if you were only nice we might have considered changing the name but we won't because YOU WERE MEAN!" This isn't about you getting your way. If you think you should change the name because it's obviously painful and horrific to people, then you should change it no matter how people have treated you. That's what's called 'doing the right thing'. What you are doing right now is wrong.

That's great, if you have opinions speak them. We are simply speaking our own as well. We have a right to defend our own name and our own game as much as you have a right to tell us what we do is wrong. But we are on different sides of this argument. I have been calm and rational about this so far, and I have brought up the points we have been attacked on so far. We don't think we should change the name, yes, in the beginning we thought it might be offensive though though various discussions through all of the muns of the game, we went ahead with it because they didn't see anything wrong with it. We aren't trying to trivialize the events of WW2. We are trying to show that the world would be the same if a evil fuckhead had taken over the magical world. Thank you for your opinion, honestly it helps, but we aren't changing the name.

It's deeply offensive and whether you change it or not, I think this kind of thing -- that you could go with the name in the first place and the response to the objection -- speaks strongly to the kind of people you are. There's no undoing that. It's my personal belief that this kind of behaviour leaves a mark on the soul. Enjoy.

And it's our personal belief that you are allowed to believe that. Once again, we are sorry about our name, but we are not changing it.

Stop saying you're sorry. You AREN'T. In fact, it would be better if you hadn't said anything of the sort in the first place. You're causing people pain and persisting in doing so after they've said it. You're not sorry. Please stop saying it. No apology has any value if it is not followed by a change. The pitiful rambling apology in your FAQ is far more offensive than a simple, "We've jointly selected this name, we feel it is appropriate for the game, we are not changing it even if it it offends you."

Your persistent apologies are distasteful and are absolutely not accepted by anyone I have encountered to date. Whether you change the name of the game or not will not alter the fact that it was wrong to use the name in the first place, that your apologies are disingenuous, and that your attitudes are narcissistic and lacking in compassion. Your apologies only come across as insulting attempts to silence opposition and are an insufficient veil over the fact that you know what you are doing is wrong and are persisting in doing it out of spite and arrogance.

Then everything that JK Rowling did was wrong as well. If she had stopped the book before Lord Voldemort was defeated and let him rule as he was, the same objections would occur. It is a game that is dark but in order for the plot to change, certain points need to be played out, which has always been the intention. It was never meant to remain as a game that would be forever in the depths of human despair. Anyone who writes about war and the destruction of people is wrong, by the logic expressed.

No, not at all. People who disrespect the pain of others for no purpose but their own pleasure and who continue to make it worse -- as you have -- are in the wrong. Oh, and people who continue to insult the integrity of others with persistent apologies meant to silence are even more wrong. Rowling never called out the names of the Holocaust and its perpetrators and its tragedies. She used the parallels delicately and with care, drawing attention to not just past prejudice and disaster but to modern catastrophes. At no point did she cross the line and appropriate an actual event in human history for her own ends.

If you REALLY look at it, pull off the hatred glasses and really look at it, the only thing we're guilty of is using the same name. We don't have hitler running around. We haven't used the name of any victims or locations. Everything has been paralleled as well. It is only a name. We are not attacking the jews in the game. We are not making fun of the holocaust, the words "Kristallnacht" mean "Crystal Night" in German, and is generally referred to the two nights of that particular movement, which is similar in sense and style to what is going on in our game.

A lot of this backlash would make a lot more sense if we had taken the event and used it, the people and the location, the exact time and dates. But we haven't. They're just words in German that have significant meaning.

I don't have any 'hatred glasses' on. The reasons you think you're justified in using this name are exactly why this is so offensive and ridiculous. You are appropriating this event for fun, when you could have made up any number of other names for your game. Your game doesn't need this name except that it was fun and cool to use it.

If this were a recreationist RPG that was revisiting the era, it might be questionable, but nothing to this degree. And, I think you would find that most people who have genuine interest in that time period wouldn't dare use the name because they are fully aware of the impact it has on people in the here and now. The only people other than YOU (in the general sense of everyone in the game) who would use it with such disrespect are white supremacists or Nazi sympathizers.

You are appropriating (that means taking over, without permission or justification) the name of an event that was terrible and horrible and you (every one of you in the game) are doing it FOR FUN. And, you all (because even the silent ones among you are complicit in this action) are insulting the people that you are hurting, on top of causing them pain. That is wrong.

We aren't trying to trivialize the events of WW2.

You may not be trying to, but that's exactly what you're doing.

We are trying to show that the world would be the same if a evil fuckhead had taken over the magical world.

Except that the magical world? Not Real. So saying, "In this non-existant fictional world, if an evil guy took over, it would be just like the Holocaust.

In addition to everything else, you show a lack of imagination. JKR wanted to draw the Nazi parallel, but you'll notice that she never once used the words "Nazi" or "Hitler". She created her own terminology. If you really don't want to trivialize history, why not do the same?

She may not have in her writings but she has in interviews. If it's not just like the Holocaust you explain a way of explaining it. It is the destruction of a race of people, the destruction of a way of life no matter if it's magical or muggle.

The point: here

You: Somewhere on Alpha Centauri.

Do you understand what an allegory is, and how fictional events can be written in such a way as to reference real-world events without actually mentioning those events? Or did you read Animal Farm and think that the point of the book was that pigs are bad?

JKR was making an allegory, using fiction to show up the evils of real-world prejudice. You've managed to turn that on its head and come up with "prejudice is just as bad in fiction as it is in real life".

JKR wanted to draw the Nazi parallel, but you'll notice that she never once used the words "Nazi" or "Hitler". She created her own terminology. If you really don't want to trivialize history, why not do the same?

YAY YOU for this comment.

sure, go ahead and defend them, but honestly, if it's creating THIS big a problem, can't you see that your little "discussion" of whether or not it was a good idea to name the game as such, and resulting decision that it was not was....oh... maybe WRONG?

why waste so much time responding to everyone's comments and defending yourself and getting angry and worked up because omg people "don't see your side" when you can avoid ALL OF THIS by just taking the rename token and renaming it something less offensive. if you want people to continue being active, then i honestly think heeding the fact that this has become an all out fight and a huge problem might be a wise idea.

by seeing all of this and "reading" it(i use the term loosely), but still sticking to your 'principles' and not changing the name, that shows that you are not obviously understanding just how big a mistake you made. polling a few people before making the game officially is not enough people. and I'm sure the magical world would be similar if Grindelwald had taken over, but you don't need to use a name synonymous with such horrid events. make one up on your own. If it has to be German, grab a dictionary and make the german version of "The end of life as we know it." or "the dark one" or even something like "darkness reigns". this name is not "okay" and there is something wrong with it. this outporing of offense to it should show you that your mistake needs to be rectified.