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Doctor Stephen Strange (mister_doctor) wrote in thedisplaced,
@ 2017-11-05 12:38:00

Entry tags:

!network post, anya corazon / spider-girl (616), bart allen (smallville), dorcas meadowes, emma frost (616), liv moore, marian carlyle / rogue (1610), regina mills / evil queen (au), rogue (616), sam wilson / captain america (616), sharon carter / agent 13 (mcu), snow white, stephen strange (mcu), tara maclay

On Friday, I commented on a young lady's network post and heartlessly called her an 'idiot'. I sincerely apologize for my action. I allowed my temper to get the better of me, and promise to be more vigilant about what I write.

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However, I stand by my concern for the Displaced underage youth. I understand they are required to have guardians when they arrive. How much supervision are they given? Tumblewood is turbulent and dangerous, and while I understand some of the youth have powers and may even be able to defend themselves, they are still children.

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	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	It's something that needs to be talked about and discussed though. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER mister_doctor 2017-11-05 08:19 pm UTC (link)
	I couldn't agree with you more, which is why I asked. It's difficult, but not impossible. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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absorbs
2017-11-05 08:25 pm UTC (link)

It ain't impossible at all. If you sign up to take on one of the underage kids that get dropped off here you need to be doing what you should to make sure they're safe and doing what they're supposed to. When they make mistakes you should be talking to them about it and doling out consequences for those mistakes when necessary.

If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a guardian.

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	FILTER mister_doctor 2017-11-05 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	It might be a good idea for there to be a self governing body within our own community the Displaced to handle situations such as these. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:36 pm UTC (link)
	I think that ain't going to be happening. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 08:34 pm UTC (link)
	There is difference between disagreeing with how one parents and being an unfit guardian and I do not feel this distinction is being made here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:37 pm UTC (link)
	Feel free to make the distinction then, Emma. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 08:40 pm UTC (link)
	~~I am concerned~~ I am trying to do that, darling. I cannot imagine it would be well received if you were approached because someone wasn't alright with how you discipline the children you care for. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	People are free to comment about how I discipline my children all they want, Emma. But I know I'm actually doling out consequences for when one of mine go doing something they shouldn't. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 08:50 pm UTC (link)
	Your definition of what is appropriate consequences might not be that of the next guardian. And if a child is not being neglected or endangered, there's no reason to police that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	I guess we disagree on what's considered neglect and endangerment. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 08:55 pm UTC (link)
	A guardian who doesn't severely punish their ward for making a stupid, but understandable mistake is not neglecting or endangering that child. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 08:56 pm UTC (link)
	Who said anything about severely punishing their ward for making a stupid mistake though? Consequences and punishments ain't always the same thing. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 09:05 pm UTC (link)
	I don't see how that's the case. Please explain the difference. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	I still don't see where anyone was asking for a severe punishment but sure. Consequences can range from actual punishments (grounding, stuff taken away for a week, etc) to having a discussion over the mistake you made and strategies to not go making that mistake again, to putting up a baby gate so you don't go into that area. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER faberges 2017-11-05 09:11 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think most people would make that distinction. And talking about what are appropriate consequences for a child's actions seems like a slippery slope to me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-05 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	I wasn't talking specifically about any one kid, but about what it can take to be an actual guardian. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: FILTER captcommunist 2017-11-06 01:05 am UTC (link)
	We don't. Does anyone even know whether Aracely's guardian has done something, or are we just talking shit because we're assuming he hasn't because it wasn't public? I sure as hell never consulted my neighbours about stuff like that when I was raising teenagers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: FILTER absorbs 2017-11-06 01:12 am UTC (link)
	Fairly moot point considering I ain't talking about Aracely or her guardian. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	FILTER captcommunist 2017-11-06 01:21 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, we're just coincidentally talking about something no one's ever had reason to worry about for the several years people have been here. If people want some kind of organised rule enforcement it should be for everyone, not just minors. Most of the people who've fucked up have been adults anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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absorbs
2017-11-06 01:26 am UTC (link)

I guess you ain't been privy to the conversations that I've had with quite a few people, usually Emma, about the welfare of the younger groups that end up showing up here. Cause this ain't the first time I've ever talked about any of this. And I didn't bring up organized rule enforcement or registering who everyone is either. Both of those ain't going to work.

But expecting guardians to be able to handle the actual duty of being a guardian, sure I'll chat about that. Not everyone can or should have that responsibility. Do I know how we'd determine that? Nope. But it is something that should probably be looked into.

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captcommunist
2017-11-06 01:32 am UTC (link)

If you haven't talked to me about it, I'm not privy to it. Kinda how it works. ~~Which is funny being as I'm a social worker. I don't wanna be the only one on this but it's stupid as hell not to include me at all.~~

I've been keeping an eye out as much as I can with the information they send me. So far I haven't seen anything that's looked like it needed acting on.

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absorbs
2017-11-06 01:36 am UTC (link)

When I'm filtered into conversations I don't always go thinking to filter others into them too. And if people don't end up following up with you there ain't much I can do about that either, Sam.

Half of the kids end up picking someone after they arrive, often people they don't know. And I ain't sure even all of them got a guardian who are supposed to. Do we got any sort of tally on that? Is it something we're even supposed to be doing? I couldn't tell you. But with all the new arrivals we've been getting, it wouldn't hurt to see if we are missing anyone.

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captcommunist
2017-11-06 01:52 am UTC (link)

People who talk just among themselves should probably get used to having very incomplete information, as a general rule.

Actually most of them seem to be with someone at least from the same or similar universe, as far as I can tell, if not an actual family member or friend. We could always have a list of names (and just names, or whatever extra info people want to give) of people willing to take on the exceptions, but given the military runs the quarantine we'd need their cooperation for practically anything.

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	FILTER absorbs 2017-11-06 01:57 am UTC (link)
	I feel like a few people have brought up having a list of people willing to take on exceptions but it just ain't ever come to fruition. It's one of them things we talk about but never actually follow through on. And I ain't seeing why we need the military's cooperation to know who's in need of a guardian or not. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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