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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-05 16:00:00

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char: cyclops/scott summers, char: dust/sooraya qadir, char: marvel girl/phoenix/jean grey, char: white queen/emma frost, creator: frank quitely, creator: grant morrison, group: x-men, publisher: marvel comics, title: new x-men

Grant Morrison on the Scott/Emma affair.

Back in S_D 1.0, I posted the storyline of Scott and Emma's affair from Grant Morrison's New X-Men run. I remember that there was some debate over whether or not Scott was actually cheating on Jean, since the hot sweaty sex he was having with Emma was only telepathic.

Well, here to settle the debate once and for all is Grant Morrison himself.

This is one of the questions from Grant Morrison's interview in the Comics Creators on X-Men book, which I highly recommend if you're an X-Men fan.

In your mind, did Scott and Emma commit adultery?

The way I saw it was that Jean and Scott had become remote. For me, the great emotional moment for Scott and Jean was when they ran out to die together on the moon during the Phoenix Saga. After Jean died, Scott ended up with a lot of other women. Scott was very attractive to women even though he didn't know it and I wanted to play around with that. Since he was becoming emotionally remote from Jean, because she was becoming more and more godlike, it just seemed he would naturally fall into the arms of someone more emotionally connected, which Emma actually was. Yes, it was a kind of adultery, but at the same time Jean wasn't being his wife anymore. I just felt that the spark between them had died out and it was time to give Scott someone else.

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icon_uk
2009-09-05 09:20 pm UTC (link)

And as I've said these are not "marital problems" by any standard human definition. They're not just "growing apart", Jean is no longer entirely human and getting less so with each flap of the Phoenix wings. She's a quart of godhood in a human pint pot. You can't "relearn" each other when one of you no longer speaks the language.

There IS no possible resolution of that that, divorce was losing any meaning for Jean as much as marriage was. And we HAD already seen her throw herself at Logan trying to get some sort of reaction out of Scott.

It was adultery of a sort I agree, but Jean picking through Emma's mind and deliberately opening up raw emotional wounds because she no longer understood the human notion of sympathy or empathy any more was just plain warped.

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	xdoop 2009-09-05 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	I always thought the problem was more with Scott's mind being screwed over by Apocalypse. Even in Morrison's run, Jean tried reaching out to Scott and he just pushed her away. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-05 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	"Forget me, Scott. All I ever did was die on you." That was the truest thing ever said about that relationship. Scott could not grow up till he was completely free of Jean, simple as that. When she was dead he brooded and brooded and brooded. It's pathetic. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-09-05 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	?? She never told him to forget her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-05 10:01 pm UTC (link)
	You're right. It was "Live, Scott. Live. All I ever did was die on you." But I would take that as "forget me, move on, have a life." (It was at the end of Planet X.) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	arilou_skiff 2009-09-05 11:16 pm UTC (link)
	Yep. Focus on life and what you can get out of it, and not on death, death comes anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

jlroberson
2009-09-05 11:21 pm UTC (link)

And that's always been Scott's problem: he acts like a brooding teen emo-boy where Jean is concerned, and he's a grown man.(look at Claremont's time and how many times you see an anguished Scott with his anguished face, even before her death) A senior now really if he were real. His fixation never really seemed like love to me, more stalky.

I think that Scott being that way, if anything, reinforces certain impulses in the fanboys toward that kind of arrest, if one wants to go there. Given that part of Jean's appeal has always been "That Perfect Girlfriend I'll Have Someday."

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greenmask
2009-09-05 11:45 pm UTC (link)

Reading Vol.1 of Essential Uncanny X-Men it's quite striking how the Scott/Jean relationship seems so similar to how it ALWAYS felt, to me. "I could NEVER love her, for I am a DANGER to ALL with these cursed laser eyes! she could never love ME! I shall go and SULK!" "Oh, Scott, why do you hide from me? I feel that you could never love me, for you never seem to notice how I feel about you! I will do on dates with Angel until you come around and make moves on me!"

And then he yells at her in a combat situation.

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	ian_karkull 2009-09-06 12:45 am UTC (link)
	That's the exact moment their marriage ended, imho, and they both knew that. Everything after that was just a sharade for the good of Xavier's (the school, not the person). (Reply to this) (Parent)

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