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Doop ([info]xdoop) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-07 09:38:00

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Entry tags:char: black widow/natasha romanova, char: controller/basil sandhurst, char: maria hill, creator: matt fraction, creator: salvador larroca, publisher: marvel comics, title: invincible iron man

Invincible Iron Man #16

This is from Invincible Iron Man #16, by Fraction and Larroccas. I'm posting four pages, but two of them are cropped so it's essentially three pages. Someone else can post four pages from the main storyline with Madame Masque, or something.




Later, Maria Hill is taking a shower when...




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Re: It's sorta half and half
[info]xdoop
2009-08-08 12:42 pm UTC (link)
She mind-raped Spider-man

No.

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Re: It's sorta half and half
[info]steverodgers5
2009-08-08 07:53 pm UTC (link)
I understand the difference in the two incidents, in terms of Controller wanting to completely dominate a person's life versus her having her underling force her way into Spidey's secrets but still...

She didn't exactly show much empathy or regret for having that done to Spidey, so it is a little bit difficult to entirely sympathise with her plight now.

It really would have interesting if Natasha had offloaded Maria to the New Avengers, just to see what Peter's reaction would have been there, and whether he could rise above it to offer any sympathy..

(Although it could be argued that Peter & MJ messed with everyone's heads at the end of OMD, so perhaps he shouldn't be offering any opinions there..)

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Re: It's sorta half and half
[info]xdoop
2009-08-08 08:00 pm UTC (link)
She had his mind read because he was withholding important information about a dangerous threat.

It may have been rude, but it's not like he was violated.

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[info]ashtoreth
2009-08-09 02:38 am UTC (link)
Yes, he was. And people at that level--like Ms. Hill herself--withhold important information all the time. There was nothing she could do that she wasn't already.

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[info]xdoop
2009-08-09 03:20 am UTC (link)
You're basically saying you have no sympathy for what happened to Maria because of what she did to Spider-Man?

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[info]ashtoreth
2009-08-09 03:34 am UTC (link)
A little bit. Hill is right, she's been traumatized. But she had little empathy for others through her short time at the top. Hopefully, the suggestion that this 'rape' will be used as a character builder is correct. Yes, it's a sad cliche for female characters, but I would turn my opinion of her around 100% if she became the same tough bitch she has been, but added some respect and understanding to the much more horrific trials that most heroes have been through.

To become the new Fury she needs a cool deformity though.

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