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espanolbot (espanolbot) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-17 22:48:00

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char: death of the endless, title: ambush bug, title: lucifer, title: madame xanadu

As Blackest Night starts week I thought I'd post these cameos of everyone's favourite Goth
Possibly NSFW due to Ken Dollish nudity.

Firstly, from Lucifer, where Death comes to observe after he is sent as close to dying he can by a magical tarot pack called Basanos,

Later,

He is then brought back to life by the timely intervention of his niece, Elaine, who is the daughter of his brother the archangel Michael.

Note the comparision here to how she was with Lucifer,

I have Death's appearence in Lobo around somewhere, but until I, or someone else, posts it, here's her cameo in Ambush Bug, which sadly seems to have even more resonance now then back in 1992 or when it was published,

And here is her most recent appearence (I think) in the current Madame Xanadu series.

Madame X is in prison, and her immortality running out, she is rapidly aging to death.

Out of desperation, she performs what seems to be the same ritual they tried at the beginning of the Sandman series,

Xanadu askes that she be allowed to perform Death's card reading in exchange for not dying, and out of amusement Death agrees,

And here's the artwork from the above Lucifer issue, 'cause it's pretty,

Will possibly post her appearence in Books of Magic at some point in the future, depending on whether my photobucket bandwidth doesn't decide to go tits up.

Anyway, here's the thing.

Although I know that the current (kind of stupid) mandate between Vertigo and DC is that characters can't cross over anymore, I'd... Like it so that when characters like the Dibnys die, they have this particular anthropomorphic personification there waiting for them.

Not the Black Racer. Not Black Flash. Not Nekron. Just... Death.

Personally, I think that life in the DCU must be scary enough with the possiblity of that lot coming after you.

Anyway, here's to Death of the Endless, the joint first nicest personification of death after this guy,

From the Soul Music cartoon from the early 90s,

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	volksjager 2009-07-17 10:37 pm UTC (link)
	When was the "no crossovrs" rule put into effect ? (Reply to this) (Thread)

espanolbot
2009-07-17 10:41 pm UTC (link)

Late 90s I think.

Prior to that you have Dream of the Endless showing up in JLA, and Constantine appearing in the background of things like Underworld Unleashed and Hal Jordan's funeral.

Now they can reference things but not directly have them appearing.

So they can reference the Endless, Swamp Thing and the events of the Lucifer comic at the beginning of the Day of Vengence tie-in, but they can't actually show up.

Though Kid Devil was shown to be reading a Hellblazer comic in Teen Titans at some point.

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	volksjager 2009-07-17 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	This is something Official ? do you have a source ? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-07-17 11:26 pm UTC (link)
	It is official, though I'm afraid that I don't have an exact source. It's just something that's appeared in interviews with Didio and stuff over in his Newsarama talks. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-07-18 12:15 am UTC (link)
	I doubt it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-07-18 12:29 am UTC (link)
	Don't believe me if you want, but that's the case. (Reply to this) (Parent)

statham1986
2009-07-18 08:26 am UTC (link)

Actually, it was a talking point at a Convention or two in recent years. Vertigo, despite being a division of DC, isn't obliged to give back any characters they've used from DC - Like Swamp Thing. Also, the general nature of some of the Vertigo books seems to render crossovers and the like undoable.

But yeah. The head of Vertigo, Karen Berger, I think, I don't really know, generally seems to play hardball with the stuff Vertigo's got. She won't give Swamp Thing back at all.

So crossovers are officially unlikely at best, although I think in the case of taking prominent DC characters like Xanadu and the Phantom Stranger, it's considered out of DC continuity.

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	aulayan 2009-07-18 12:30 pm UTC (link)
	You can doubt, but back in the early 2000s, it was a big deal when Daniel/Dream showed up in JSA, because of the "Thou Shalt Not Use Our Characters Rule" Basically. Vertigo has said "You can't use our characters" and Vertigo is slowly stealing more and more characters from DC. It takes a lot of begging to get any of them back. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	interrobamf 2009-07-18 12:27 am UTC (link)
	Although Dream appeared in JSA. I think the deal was that Vertigo would get Madame Xandau in exchange. When did Day of Vengeance reference Lucifer? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-07-18 12:31 am UTC (link)
	All things fair. And it technically wasn't an appearence the last time we saw Dream/Daniel as it didn't really say who he was, or something. Just a shining doorway. Obvious who it is if you've followed the characters, though not necessarily the same as him showing up and interacting with the characters like he did in JLA. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

interrobamf
2009-07-18 01:19 am UTC (link)

It wasn't just a doorway. We saw Daniel. There was an appearance before that where he basically told Per Degaton to fuck off and leave his parents alone, but that was as an nondescript red portal thingy.

And since your other comment was deleted, what specifically did the Day of Vengeance TPB say about Lucifer? I already used Lucifer to explain some events in the crossover, but I surprised that's actually the case.

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	neuhallidae 2009-07-18 12:35 am UTC (link)
	IIRC, Dream's last JSA appearance was considered a special one-off thing due to the characters involved and there was a lot of permission-getting going around. DC's usually been trying to keep things separate between them and their little brother company since around '93. I could be wrong, though. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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