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arbre_rieur ([info]arbre_rieur) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-13 00:30:00

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Entry tags:creator: garrie gastonny, creator: warren ellis, publisher: avatar press, title: supergod

The crossroads of superheroes and religion


Warren Ellis explores the crossroads of two topics he is known for his nuanced, thoughtful, and respectful treatment of.













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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 09:44 am UTC (link)
Ruins was written fourteen years ago. Ellis has done a lot since then, and it bears almost no resemblance to any of his recent output.

Besides, as Internet Jesus once told us all on the last comm, it was a comedy.

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[info]khamelea
2009-11-13 10:28 am UTC (link)
There is a possible resemblance there.

Set up: horrible outcome!

Set up: horrible outcome!

Set up: horrible outcome!

Of course, the actual story is probably not structured that way, there's probably more to it than just a series of morbid tableaux, and I wouldn't get that vibe if not for Ruins. I mean it's just a small sampling of scans (scanling?.) But I do and it's not a good (or remotely hilarity-inducing thing) so I mentionned it as something that somewhat dampened my positive reaction.

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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 10:35 am UTC (link)
Ruins is just a series of morbid tableaux, which has a sort of dark humor to it in some ways and some scenes. Supergod, yeah, is entirely setup at this point.

I don't know if I'd call them all morbid except Krishna, certainly, but even then I found myself nodding a bit. If you create a superhuman and ask it to fix the environment you befouled, what the hell do you expect it to do to you?

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[info]khamelea
2009-11-13 08:40 pm UTC (link)
"Ruins is just a series of morbid tableaux"

I think that's pretty much what I was saying!

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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 08:44 pm UTC (link)
And Supergod isn't. The setup involves such but the actual execution has yet to be determined.

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[info]khamelea
2009-11-13 08:49 pm UTC (link)
"And Supergod isn't. The setup involves such but the actual execution has yet to be determined."

If the exeuction has yet to be determined, it could be like Ruins in that way in the end.

I'm not sure how I expressed myself badly enough that what I was saying transformed into an absolute critical judgment of the entire work. Like I was saying, it was just a vibe that sort of came from reading these scans strictly. For all I knew the series could have been almost over being published by now and everybody else would know that it has an actual plot. Which it probably does.


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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 09:05 pm UTC (link)
Honestly, what you said sounded more like, "Hm, this does look interesting, but this writer did this one two-issue story fourteen years ago that I really didn't like," which struck me as odd enough to solicit discussion.

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[info]khamelea
2009-11-14 03:09 am UTC (link)
Ah, yes, I guess my original comment was much too vague.

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[info]mugiwara
2009-11-13 10:30 am UTC (link)
Well, ellis did also Astonishing X-Crap and that was this year.
But yeah, this looks good and I trust more Ellis in this domain than in straight super hero comics.

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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 10:36 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure referring to it as "Astonishing X-Crap" is useful or helpful.

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(Anonymous)
2009-11-13 12:20 pm UTC (link)
Actually I find it pretty much encapsulated the experience.

Of course, I think Ellis seems to give a lot more love and attention to his non-mainstream projects, and I sure as hell can't blame him for that. It's not like the majority of fans apparantly give a crap - they buy the name on the cover regardless of what's inside. Why should he bother being on his 'A' game for them?

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[info]okkult3000
2009-11-13 05:46 pm UTC (link)
I found it very useful and helpful.

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[info]stolisomancer
2009-11-13 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Then God help the critical discourse, 'cause we sure won't.

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[info]icon_uk
2009-11-13 10:29 pm UTC (link)
He also did a memorable Excalibur run, so, swings and roundabouts...

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