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Tweak says, "I'm a PFLAG mom"

superfan1 (superfan1) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-31 02:58:00

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char: catwoman/selina kyle, char: harley quinn/harleen quinzel, char: poison ivy/pamela isley, creator: guillem march, creator: paul dini, publisher: dc comics, title: gotham city sirens

Gotham City Sirens #5
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It wasn't really the joker after all,but a disgruntled ex side-kick with a grudge. Disguising and impersonating the Clown Prince.

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	uadlika 2009-11-01 12:31 am UTC (link)
	Until I read theHefner's comment I had no idea that Zurr-En-Arrh was a recycled element. Maybe if I knew the background, I would find the RIP storyline better. Or not. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

aaron_bourque
2009-11-01 07:16 am UTC (link)

Not really; the Zurr-En-Arrh element was originally an alien fanboying over Batman. Seriously, he picked up transmissions somehow from Earth and was modeling his own "crime fighting" on Batman, only using Zurr-En-Arrh technology . . . and a brightly colored costume. It doesn't add anything to the modern story, really, knowing what it's actually about. But, interestingly, it doesn't subtract anything, either. I felt that thehefner's complaint about Morrison's use of long-forgotten Silver Age (and Golden Age) material is unfair, because generally, Morrison changed the older stuff significantly, summarizing (or attempting to summarize) for the audience what was needed, whereas Dini is actually using stuff from ages past, modernizing without really deconstructing.

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batcookies
2009-11-04 09:46 pm UTC (link)

It depends on what kind of reader you are.

If you're the sort of person that can enjoy a story even when you don't get half the allusions/references the writer is making, more power to you. And if you're the sort of person that can't even tell the writer is doing that, and don't mind scenes where half the point is a callback to some esoteric piece you're unaware of,... hey, cool.

But if you're like me, you can tell when Morrison is making references that are going over your head, and it's detrimental to enjoying the story.

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mysteryfan
2009-11-01 02:55 pm UTC (link)

I've read it (1958 story) and for me, it didn't. I think it's an interesting gimmick to try to shove a bunch of elements from a character's past 70 years into the last five of current continuity, but I don't think it improves the story itself.

And I wonder if GM will try that with other characters, like Superman and Wonder Woman, who I understand he's going to write: If everything that ever happened in WW or Superman's 70 plus years of comics DID happen. Or if only Batman will get that treatment.

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