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Tweak says, "Let's Have a Kiki!"

s (atrophy) wrote in rooms,
@ 2014-07-23 01:25:00

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*journal, eddie nigma, sam wilson, steve rogers

Sam W, Eddie N
[Locked to Sam W]
Sam?

[Locked to Eddie N]
As far as I could gather, no changes with Ms. Stacy.

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	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 09:43 am UTC (link)
	Well, that and harassing innocent bystanders, of course. I hope they're good for me, too, you know? I hope when Steph and I have a kid, they accept it like one of their own. I'm very skilled at communication and talking to Banner is like interviewing someone who doesn't want to talk to you in the first place. [Blink.] Good. I hope things smooth over. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 09:51 am UTC (link)

That is more Byronic hero.

[Smile.] I don't know them, but I think they will.

[And now, huff.] I [...] know his life has been hard. I don't want to discount that. But I don't know if I've ever met a man so avoidant of taking responsibility for the things he does, or says, or the consequences of those things. How do you respect someone who has no respect for anyone else? [/rant.]

I hope so too. It'll be better once Gwen heals up and Tony too.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 10:00 am UTC (link)

Maybe he'd just stick to the role of troublemaker. There aren't enough goodhearted troublemakers these days, anyway.

[Blink. Smile. Blink.] Thank you. And, I think you're right. It's why I'm staying in the door instead of running off to space.

That's precisely my problem. He doesn't see that he's in the wrong and he doesn't change his actions when people ask him to be more forthcoming. I believe he's hard on himself and he cares deeply for a select few, but that's not good enough. The only way he'll learn is through failure and with Jason's life on the line and Gotham in danger, that just wasn't an option.

Anyway. I'll stop complaining. I hope your friends get better.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 10:09 am UTC (link)

Were you like that, a troublemaker, as a kid? I could see that.

What's [...] in space? Is there a door there?

No. It wasn't. And it shouldn't have to be, for him to learn. The man is selfish. We all are and I understand that. But to a point. When it gets to endangering the lives of others or nearly killing them, I think it's time to reconsider. But to reconsider, you had to admit you were wrong at some point. [...] It's selfish of me to say it, but this is validating. I'm quickly learning I have no willpower. I should be disappointed in myself, but I can't say that I am. Please carry on if you want to.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 10:22 am UTC (link)

I was. I've always been smaller than the other guys, so I had to be faster and smarter. Once I made a pair of bullies think they were haunted by the ghost of a dead general. I made their floorboards creak, did basic Houdini tricks to make them believe in ghosts. They lost so much sleep that they forgot to beat me up for a month. It was a good month.

The Mass Effect door. It's a giant, advanced civilization filled with aliens. Steph and I have a place on a space station there. I talked her into staying after we got married so I could go figure some stuff out for myself. But, there's nothing out there compared to staying and defending Gotham while being part of a team. Even if it doesn't work right and people don't always like me. I'm always going to come back.

He's a genius. People who think they're smart, myself included, take a lot to be humbled. I nearly got my wife killed once, I almost got Selina killed and I've fucked up in ways you can't imagine. Banner has spent his life on the run, so he hasn't been tested until recently. It'll be a long time before he realizes he's not always right. [Blink.] I know, I've been bottling this up for a while. [Blink.] And, I don't like scientists very much. Never have.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 10:31 am UTC (link)

[A laugh.] That's a smart plan, very clever. Any general can be intimidating, but a dead one especially.

It's your home. I don't know if I could handle space. I'm having enough of a shock adjusting to now. [...] Did it help you figure stuff out?

Why not—about the scientists, I mean? [...] I envy all the brains on the team. They talk in an entirely different language than anything I can comprehend, but I think I can agree that most of them think of themselves [...] let's say, highly. [...] But your wife, even when you were [...] screwing up, she accepted you? She didn't put you out.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 10:42 am UTC (link)

And people in Gotham are as superstitious as they come.

Well, it's from a video game I know pretty well, so it's cheating a bit. [Blink.] I don't know. I got bored doing the things that used to thrill me, so that's something? [Blink.] Would you ever go to another door? Or are there too many responsibilities there?

Scientists...the ones I've known over the years anyway- they don't have a high regard for human life. They take risks they shouldn't in the name of science and will do anything to keep running their tests. [Blink.] Not all scientists are like that, but many of them lack a certain amount of empathy. I was hunting scientists operating on young, gifted people when I was in space, actually. [Blink.] She gave me shit, she always does when I screw up, but she didn't leave my side. Stephanie knows I'm a work in progress and that fucking up is something I'm going to do now and then. You just have to find someone who believes in you enough. Someone who knows you'll try to be better.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 10:53 am UTC (link)

I think it was Selina who told me there was no God in Gotham.

[Oh, a video game.] Is that [...] what you wanted? [...] I'd like to visit. But I don't think I could leave.

I can see that. That's unfortunate. It sounds an awful lot like some of the experiments done a long time ago, when certain people weren't considered people at all. [...] If Dr. Erskine was here, I would recommend him. Are you looking for a scientist for something in particular? [He thinks about that.] You're lucky. [...] Like this? [Short transcription.] How about just accepting people for what they are? Believing the best of them, but accepting them, flaws and all.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:04 am UTC (link)

That's where she's wrong. I go to church! I actually work the fish fry once a month.

I wanted to know if I'm ready to be a dad or if I'm going to wake up one day wanting to chase some cheap thrill. As a former rogue? That's a very real concern. [Blink.] What was Erskine like? [Blink.] It doesn't matter anymore. I wanted to reverse a procedure done on these kids in space, but I can't go back there any time soon.

[Smile. Blinking pause at the transcript.] That sounds like something a rogue would say.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 11:12 am UTC (link)

But do you work it on Good Friday? There's the true measure.

So you're ready to be a dad. Early congratulations. [...] Gentle, dry, patient. He did like giving tests. Besides Bucky, at that point, I don't think anyone would have given me a second glance. He saw something in me. I can't really give an impartial judgement of his character, but I know he was a good man. He came over from Germany just before the War. They tried the serum there. It is [...] when you get down to it, an exercise in eugenics, so it makes sense. But it wasn't ready and he wasn't willing to help. [...] Could you send someone else to help them?

Selina. That was her advice.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:19 am UTC (link)

Well of course. I have to earn street cred somehow.

Save it until it actually happens. Steph and I are terrified. [Blink.] Was he the one who talked you into doing the serum experiment? [Blink.] The only one I know through that door is Banner. Barbara, too, actually, but she's with child.

That sounds like Selina. [Thinking pause.] And, what did you tell her in response?

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	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:24 am UTC (link)
	Big man on the block. Yes, sir. [...] He was, in the sense that he approached me. I didn't have to be convinced. It was his project with the Strategic Scientific Reserve. [...] If it's as advanced as you say, she might be able to make phone calls, or whatever it is you need to do to find a scientist. I told her yes, ma'am. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:28 am UTC (link)
	You didn't have to be convinced to undergo a possibly harmful, painful treatment that might have gone horribly wrong? [Blink.] It's not a bad idea. I want to get on her good side, anyway. We're both the designated researchers in the door. See? You are getting better at talking to Selina. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:32 am UTC (link)
	No. It was my in to the army. She thought I was shutting down, so maybe not. Concede a point and you're being rude. Argue, you are too. No. She wasn't mean throughout any of it. I'm just [...] trying to work out if I agree. Do you? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:39 am UTC (link)

And, you really wanted to fight for your country. What inspired the patriotism?

[Amused.] Meow face is a special breed of cat. [Thinking pause.] I believe it to a point. I believe it when it comes to Stephanie or to some people I've known for a long time. The thing is, her point of view takes a lot of work and a lot of heartache. If you accept people for their flaws, that doesn't keep them from hurting you.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 11:43 am UTC (link)

It was my duty. I believe in the freedom of choice. I believe if I want that for myself and for others, sometimes you have to fight for it and that price is high. My father died in the Great War, but that wasn't it. I wanted to do what was right. I spent most of my life standing up to bullies, I didn't see why I should get to sit out of the war.

[Pause, pause.] But it is [...] kinder?

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	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:52 am UTC (link)
	Do the wars now make you feel the same way? Certainly. But, it lets people get away with things, doesn't? It allows them to keep walking all over you because you accept their flaws. You have to ask if the good outweighs the bad and if it doesn't, then they aren't worth your time. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:55 am UTC (link)
	Wars now seem more complicated. Everything does. It was then too, but it consumed the country. Now, I don't know. I don't see why you can't accept someone's flaws and still want them to become better, or know they can be. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:59 am UTC (link)
	I don't really know, either, honestly. Gotham is like an island. America as a whole barely registers on my radar. What if they can't be better? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 12:01 pm UTC (link)
	I try to keep up, but the 24 hour [...] feeds are a bit much. I don't know if I believe that's true about anyone. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 12:58 pm UTC (link)
	You should watch Daily Show. I know plenty of people who can't change. Not without a bunch of circumstances making it happen. And, Steve, it's not your responsibility to help them change. You're going to drive yourself nuts if you spend too much time with people that make you unhappy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 01:03 pm UTC (link)
	Is that a television program? Anyone can change, so long as they want to. [...] Isn't it though? As their friend. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 01:09 pm UTC (link)
	Do you have a tv yet? Most people? Don't want to. And, even if they do, have to put in effort every day to achieve it. [Blink.] No. It wasn't Steph's responsibility to help me change. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 01:11 pm UTC (link)
	No. The Tower [...] got attacked. Sharon has a TV. I understand that, but it's worth the effort. [...] Okay. Not responsibility. But, she wanted it for you, right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	Who's Sharon? Of course it is. I'm a walking example of it, but it's fucking hard. Really fucking hard. [Blink, blink.] Sure she did and truthfully I stopped committing crimes before I even started talking to her as a friend. She helped get me farther by believing in me and letting me talk through things. [Blink.] But, she liked me a lot. I think that helps. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)