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Tweak says, "Don't warn the tadpoles!"

s (atrophy) wrote in rooms,
@ 2014-07-23 01:25:00

Entry tags:

*journal, eddie nigma, sam wilson, steve rogers

Sam W, Eddie N
[Locked to Sam W]
Sam?

[Locked to Eddie N]
As far as I could gather, no changes with Ms. Stacy.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 10:42 am UTC (link)

And people in Gotham are as superstitious as they come.

Well, it's from a video game I know pretty well, so it's cheating a bit. [Blink.] I don't know. I got bored doing the things that used to thrill me, so that's something? [Blink.] Would you ever go to another door? Or are there too many responsibilities there?

Scientists...the ones I've known over the years anyway- they don't have a high regard for human life. They take risks they shouldn't in the name of science and will do anything to keep running their tests. [Blink.] Not all scientists are like that, but many of them lack a certain amount of empathy. I was hunting scientists operating on young, gifted people when I was in space, actually. [Blink.] She gave me shit, she always does when I screw up, but she didn't leave my side. Stephanie knows I'm a work in progress and that fucking up is something I'm going to do now and then. You just have to find someone who believes in you enough. Someone who knows you'll try to be better.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 10:53 am UTC (link)

I think it was Selina who told me there was no God in Gotham.

[Oh, a video game.] Is that [...] what you wanted? [...] I'd like to visit. But I don't think I could leave.

I can see that. That's unfortunate. It sounds an awful lot like some of the experiments done a long time ago, when certain people weren't considered people at all. [...] If Dr. Erskine was here, I would recommend him. Are you looking for a scientist for something in particular? [He thinks about that.] You're lucky. [...] Like this? [Short transcription.] How about just accepting people for what they are? Believing the best of them, but accepting them, flaws and all.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:04 am UTC (link)

That's where she's wrong. I go to church! I actually work the fish fry once a month.

I wanted to know if I'm ready to be a dad or if I'm going to wake up one day wanting to chase some cheap thrill. As a former rogue? That's a very real concern. [Blink.] What was Erskine like? [Blink.] It doesn't matter anymore. I wanted to reverse a procedure done on these kids in space, but I can't go back there any time soon.

[Smile. Blinking pause at the transcript.] That sounds like something a rogue would say.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 11:12 am UTC (link)

But do you work it on Good Friday? There's the true measure.

So you're ready to be a dad. Early congratulations. [...] Gentle, dry, patient. He did like giving tests. Besides Bucky, at that point, I don't think anyone would have given me a second glance. He saw something in me. I can't really give an impartial judgement of his character, but I know he was a good man. He came over from Germany just before the War. They tried the serum there. It is [...] when you get down to it, an exercise in eugenics, so it makes sense. But it wasn't ready and he wasn't willing to help. [...] Could you send someone else to help them?

Selina. That was her advice.

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Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:19 am UTC (link)

Well of course. I have to earn street cred somehow.

Save it until it actually happens. Steph and I are terrified. [Blink.] Was he the one who talked you into doing the serum experiment? [Blink.] The only one I know through that door is Banner. Barbara, too, actually, but she's with child.

That sounds like Selina. [Thinking pause.] And, what did you tell her in response?

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	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:24 am UTC (link)
	Big man on the block. Yes, sir. [...] He was, in the sense that he approached me. I didn't have to be convinced. It was his project with the Strategic Scientific Reserve. [...] If it's as advanced as you say, she might be able to make phone calls, or whatever it is you need to do to find a scientist. I told her yes, ma'am. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:28 am UTC (link)
	You didn't have to be convinced to undergo a possibly harmful, painful treatment that might have gone horribly wrong? [Blink.] It's not a bad idea. I want to get on her good side, anyway. We're both the designated researchers in the door. See? You are getting better at talking to Selina. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:32 am UTC (link)
	No. It was my in to the army. She thought I was shutting down, so maybe not. Concede a point and you're being rude. Argue, you are too. No. She wasn't mean throughout any of it. I'm just [...] trying to work out if I agree. Do you? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 11:39 am UTC (link)

And, you really wanted to fight for your country. What inspired the patriotism?

[Amused.] Meow face is a special breed of cat. [Thinking pause.] I believe it to a point. I believe it when it comes to Stephanie or to some people I've known for a long time. The thing is, her point of view takes a lot of work and a lot of heartache. If you accept people for their flaws, that doesn't keep them from hurting you.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 11:43 am UTC (link)

It was my duty. I believe in the freedom of choice. I believe if I want that for myself and for others, sometimes you have to fight for it and that price is high. My father died in the Great War, but that wasn't it. I wanted to do what was right. I spent most of my life standing up to bullies, I didn't see why I should get to sit out of the war.

[Pause, pause.] But it is [...] kinder?

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	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:52 am UTC (link)
	Do the wars now make you feel the same way? Certainly. But, it lets people get away with things, doesn't? It allows them to keep walking all over you because you accept their flaws. You have to ask if the good outweighs the bad and if it doesn't, then they aren't worth your time. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 11:55 am UTC (link)
	Wars now seem more complicated. Everything does. It was then too, but it consumed the country. Now, I don't know. I don't see why you can't accept someone's flaws and still want them to become better, or know they can be. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 11:59 am UTC (link)
	I don't really know, either, honestly. Gotham is like an island. America as a whole barely registers on my radar. What if they can't be better? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 12:01 pm UTC (link)
	I try to keep up, but the 24 hour [...] feeds are a bit much. I don't know if I believe that's true about anyone. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 12:58 pm UTC (link)
	You should watch Daily Show. I know plenty of people who can't change. Not without a bunch of circumstances making it happen. And, Steve, it's not your responsibility to help them change. You're going to drive yourself nuts if you spend too much time with people that make you unhappy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 01:03 pm UTC (link)
	Is that a television program? Anyone can change, so long as they want to. [...] Isn't it though? As their friend. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 01:09 pm UTC (link)
	Do you have a tv yet? Most people? Don't want to. And, even if they do, have to put in effort every day to achieve it. [Blink.] No. It wasn't Steph's responsibility to help me change. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 01:11 pm UTC (link)
	No. The Tower [...] got attacked. Sharon has a TV. I understand that, but it's worth the effort. [...] Okay. Not responsibility. But, she wanted it for you, right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	Who's Sharon? Of course it is. I'm a walking example of it, but it's fucking hard. Really fucking hard. [Blink, blink.] Sure she did and truthfully I stopped committing crimes before I even started talking to her as a friend. She helped get me farther by believing in me and letting me talk through things. [Blink.] But, she liked me a lot. I think that helps. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 01:22 pm UTC (link)

[Squint.] She's a friend. Peggy's niece actually.

Stephanie sounds like a good woman. [...] People should always want to be better, or have someone who believes they can be, even if they don't believe it themselves. I try to do that. But I don't think [...] I think maybe Stephanie is much better suited to that kind of thing than I am. [Small moment of wishing Peggy was here because she was good at guidance.] As much as I don't want to admit it.

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	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 01:24 pm UTC (link)
	If it sounds like I'm discounting how hard it is, to change, I'm sorry. That's not what I meant. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: eddie/steve

riddlethem
2014-07-23 01:27 pm UTC (link)

Dooo you like-like Sharon.

You'd adore Stephanie. You should come over for dinner once Gotham is somewhat safer. [Blink.] I don't think you're discounting it. I'm saying that you can only help the people you're willing to be patient for. That you can still like even after they hurt you or fail. And, there's no point in wasting your time trying to help people change who don't make you feel that way. [Blink.] Which is why, against all reason, Selina will probably always be in Banner's corner.

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Re: eddie/steve

atrophy
2014-07-23 02:08 pm UTC (link)

[Er.] Where she's from, we've been together for a long time.

I would love to. [...] I can't see it as a waste of time, regardless of how I feel, because even if someone hurts me or fails, it's in the name of working toward something. Progress comes with growing pains. I'm sure you know that. I'm not going to give up on Banner. Enough people have done that in his life. I just wish I was better at helping.

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	Re: eddie/steve riddlethem 2014-07-23 02:11 pm UTC (link)
	So, instant chemistry? Good, I'll let her know. [Blink.] That's noble of you, Steve. But, if he starts to exhaust you, take a step back. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: eddie/steve atrophy 2014-07-23 02:15 pm UTC (link)
	[He is an adult in almost every way, but one. This is it. Um.] I don't know. She's [...] nice. I get the technology over time, but this century will never cease to confuse me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)