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sam winchester ([info]bornunder) wrote in [info]portland_net,
@ 2014-07-12 17:33:00

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Entry tags:adam winchester, allison argent, amy pond, blaine anderson, castiel, charlie bradbury, dean winchester, derek hale, faith lehane, ianto jones, katherine pierce, lydia martin, matt murdock, rogue, sam winchester, spencer hastings, susan pevensie, wanderer

[ filtered against SPN demons (crowley & ruby) ]

So. Anyone who's been here for more than a few weeks should be aware that sometimes, the people-- or beings-- that come through the wormhole aren't always friendly. Some of them are very hostile, and we seem to be in agreement that we deal with those by defending ourselves. There's also a mostly unspoken agreement that anyone who doesn't pose a direct threat to anyone's health gets a second chance or a clean slate, even from a horrific past, a chance to have a different life in a new world.

I'm not going to argue with that, and from the things I'm about to write, it's going to be obvious why I won't. It'd be hypocritical. But there is someone that's arrived through the wormhole that's made me conflicted over whether that clean slate is a good idea. I'm not going to break the agreement, but I do want to warn you. I wasn't sure if I should do this, but since two of my friends, coming at this from two different angles, have encouraged me to do it, it's what I'm going to do.

This is Ruby. She's a demon from my home world, one of the black-eyed ones you may have seen during the invasion, but that's not the real reason why I wasn't friendly to her when she arrived. I [...] met her years ago, at a really difficult time in my life. I had died, stabbed in the back in a fight after being kidnapped by a demon, and my brother had made a deal with a demon to sell his soul and bring me back to life. I had one year to find a way to break his deal and keep him from going to hell. That was when Ruby stepped in, saved my life in a fight, and told me that she could help me save him.

She didn't, though whether she actually could have, I don't know. Dean objected, and we ran out of time. He [...] died, and I was on my own. I tried making another deal to trade places with him, but no demon would take it. They probably knew that having Dean in the pit and me up topside was the best way for their plans to play out. At any rate, that was when Ruby stepped in again. Got through to me, stopped me from drinking, and put me on the revenge path to get the demon that had killed my brother, which was about the only thing that could get me moving again. Dean ended up coming back a few months later, but if not for Ruby, I probably would have been dead by then. She saved my life, she earned my trust. But... there was more to it than that.

To understand the rest of it, you have to know that I was infected with demon blood when I was a baby. It was part of the plan, the big picture that I didn't understand at the time. It gave me... abilities. Death visions, at first. Telekinesis, once, but I never managed to do it again. And Ruby's plan for me to save my brother, to kill the demon that held his contract, was to learn how to use those abilities for other purposes. I had control over demons, I could exorcise them from their possessed hosts using only my mind and willpower. It seemed like a good thing, because it saved the host's life almost every time. Exorcisms are tricky, they give the demon a lot of room to wreak havoc before they're gone, and harming the demon by other means also hurts the innocent person possessed. It was worth the headaches and the nosebleeds and the feeling of playing with fire, to finally have a real weapon that I could use to fight them.

But there was a catch, as there always is. The amount of blood I had in my veins already wasn't enough to take on the really big, bad ones. Being more powerful meant I had to have more blood, to drink it. I resisted the idea for a long time, but there was an apocalypse beginning. Lilith-- the same demon who had taken my brother-- was starting to break the seals to free Lucifer himself from hell, to create hell on Earth. The angels had appeared on Earth for the first time in ages to stop him, or at least that was what they told us. That it was my brother's responsibility, as 'Michael's sword', to stop Lilith and Lucifer. Somehow. We didn't know how, but... they just expected him to follow their orders blindly, and that's never been our style. And it was obvious to me, at least, that some of it had to do with the fact that he... probably couldn't do it. That hell had broken him, and it was my fault he'd been down there at all. I had to be strong enough to do it for him. Maybe just as importantly... I still didn't see much of a future in store for us. I gave in. I drank her blood.

It was addictive. Once I'd started, I couldn't stop. Except for when I was forced to, when my family tried to intervene, and I did get clean eventually. But at the time, the stakes were high enough and the addiction strong enough that even after going through withdrawal once, I went back. I got to the point where I could kill demons without even touching them. I made myself strong enough to kill Lilith, even though I could tell that it was changing me on the inside. Making me more demonic. But I believed-- or hoped, at least-- that I'd be stronger than the blood, or at the very least that I'd be less harm to the world than Lilith was. So I followed Ruby to the place where the last seal on Lucifer's cage was supposed to be broken, because Lilith was supposed to be doing it herself. And I killed her.

That was when I found out that Lilith was the final seal, and that killing her had broken the cage wide open. And I also found out that Ruby had known that all along. She knew that Lilith and Lucifer both intended for me to do it, to break the final seal, to be there when Lucifer rose. She apparently thought Lucifer would reward me for it, as if that would make a difference. But as it turned out, the 'reward' was that Lucifer wanted to possess me, to use me to wreak even more destruction. I don't know if she knew that part or not, I didn't ask. Dean killed her, and I helped him.

I put Lucifer back in the pit, and I went down there with him. I figured that was a fitting punishment for everything I'd done. But I'm not saying any of this to plead my own case. I'm saying all of this as a cautionary tale: don't trust her. Yes, she went years without doing the usual murdering-for-fun gig that most demons from my world are so fond of (including Crowley, for the record), and there is every possibility that you'd escape an encounter with her unscathed, at least for now. She's the type to bide her time and wait for a bigger opportunity, to build connections, "allies" that she can manipulate. She's good at it, because she's honest even as she's stringing you along. I still believe a lot of the things she said to me were true.

But all along, I had an instinct that something was wrong. I wish I'd listened to it. If you talk to her, if you feel that same instinct, listen to it. If she asks you or tries to convince you to do something for it, at the very least, please question her motives. Make sure she's not setting you up for something you'll regret, even if it's only gaining your trust in order to use you for something later. By all means, give her a chance to change and to live her life differently now that she has a second chance at it, but just don't mistake falsehoods for real changes. For my part, I'll never trust anything she says or does, ever again.

And... what she said, about us being together, well. I did sleep with her. It's really the least important part of the story, because the emotional manipulation and the addiction was the worst of it, but I can't say that it didn't affect my choices. Obviously, she was willing to do whatever it took, from the subtlest to the most obvious tricks in the book.

Just... be careful. For your own sakes, and for mine. I'll figure out how to live with her here, for as long as she's not harming anyone. It'll be easier if I know that you've all been properly warned, and knowing that I don't have any more secrets for her to spill. I really hope she does change, and doesn't decide to ruin this world the same way she tried to ruin ours. And if anyone is reading this who might consider taking her side, remember that she ended up dead

That's all. Well, it's not all, but it's enough. [...] If you've made it this far, thank you for hearing me out. And if you've skimmed to the end, my point was: never trust a demon. As Ruby herself put it, lying and manipulation are in the demon job description.

[ team free will ]
I'm coming home now.

[ ruby ]
Getting comfy yet?


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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 12:34 am UTC (link)
No, it's not that. She knew the story already. But since Ruby showed up, I've been keeping her at a distance, a little. Ruby showing up made me feel so... unclean, to choose a nice word for it, especially around Jess. If that makes any sense at all.

I'm glad you know that, because I won't. I don't have any qualms about spilling Ruby's secrets to everyone, but she gave me a good reason for it. And really, all you have to do to hold onto my trust is avoid breaking it. Though I'm aware that's not as simple as it sounds, since I've broken people's trust in me without intending to do it. You've done just fine so far, though.

I'm sorry you don't have your daughter here, but I'm glad everything else is working out for you. I've definitely been glad for the opportunities available here, not just with Jess, though she's definitely up there on the list. And who knows, maybe Ruby will come around and discover her inner potential, too. There's room for it.

I'm pretty far from being your average librarian. But, I can imagine.

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 03:10 am UTC (link)
It makes perfect sense. Jess is something pure and unsullied by the life you've led since her death and you don't want your experiences to rub off on her. Logically it's a brilliant concept, but realistically it's totally crazy. If you push her away, Sam, you could push her away. You don't want that. I saw the way you talked about her, you're entirely smitten, so let her decide if she wants to get...dirty...okay, that word is about to bite me on the ass, I know it!

From everything I read, and what you've told me yourself, Ruby's secrets had the ability to harm you far more than her and I know it was a once in a lifetime situation that you struggled with. If I ever turned into that kind of threat you'd be obligated to share my secrets too and it was with that understanding that I told you everything! Sam, calling you my 'best-friend' sounds pretty childish, but that is what you are to me. I won't give you any reason to struggle with a similar decision, but I also know that if I started heading down that road again you'd help pull me back into line. I know because it's what I'd do for you.

I live in hope that I'll get to meet her properly one day, but I have enough memories of Nadia to make do until then. This place opened up a world that I thought was closed to me a long, long time ago and I'd given up hope of a real life again. Or an un-life, depending on your perspective. I think maybe Portland suits us far better than our home worlds and perhaps you're right, perhaps even Ruby will find something here that will set her right. I hope so, more for your sake than hers. Something tells me knowing that she really could be saved would allow you to rest easier at night.

You couldn't possibly be less average, Sam. I never thanked you - for opening up your world and inviting me in. You've taught me more about humanity in five months than I've learned in the last five hundred years.

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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 03:42 am UTC (link)
Not... quite. She was killed because of me, I think she's the very definition of 'sullied' by the life I had. It's just.

I slept with Ruby. I hated myself for it, even as I was doing it. But at the time, I didn't care. And usually when I'm telling the story, that's the least important part of it, because it really didn't matter to me. Except... to Jess. Or with Jess. I don't want to feel like that again, especially around her. That... might not make it any clearer. I'm not even sure if it's the real reason, myself, but it's close to the truth. Hopefully I'll figure out by the time I have to explain it to her.

Yeah. I think... people that threaten the safety of others kind of forfeit their right to privacy, and often their right to continue living if they're bad enough. But I do try to save people from themselves when I can. Admittedly I'm more motivated to do that if they're someone I care about. And yes, I'd want you to pull me back into line, too, though I've no plans to go darkside.

And you know, that's not a stupid hope. People show up here all the time. You stay here long enough, she might well appear, too. [...] You're right about Ruby, too. It'd just be depressing if she was entirely unredeemable. I'd like to think I was at least a little bit right, even if it makes her harder to hate for what she did.

I don't even remember doing it. I mean, before I showed up here. But... that was about six months ago, so you're actually talking about me here, aren't you?

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 04:55 am UTC (link)
Okay, put that way, it's a whole different story!

I hate to break it to you, Sam, but men sleep with women they hate all the damn time. Some are even married to them! Women are no better, though we might be better at the whole pretence of it all. Sometimes you just have to loose yourself and sex is pretty good for that, though it rarely fixes anything. If you did a straw-poll around these parts you'd probably find we'd all done that walk of shame at some point, granted the demon thing adds spice, but it doesn't make you unclean. It sure as hell doesn't make you unworthy of Jess. If anything the fact that you can admit your feelings shows just how deserving of love you are. The whole thing about the truth hurting is probably true and no woman wants to know details about her lover's past conquests, but this is probably an exception to the rule. If you can be as honest to Jess about Ruby as you've been to me, she'll understand. Answer any questions she has, if you can, and try not to be so hard on yourself, Sam. Ruby was an addiction - her affection as much as her blood - you're in recovery now and you're making amends. The rest will come in time.

What we've built here, in this fucked up world, is important and you're right, people who threaten to destroy that need to be exposed. You're a good man and I don't see you turning on anyone that doesn't deserve it, because you know that nothing is ever truly black or white. I trust you. I trust your judgement. And I've got your back.

See, we're both glass-half-full kinda people, though we hide it pretty darn well. I don't what'll happen next, but I do know that it'll work out okay. We'll make sure of that, right?

You - the other you - gave me a push in the right direction but yes, you dope, I meant you! It's you that taught me about friendship and trust. However long I live, I'll never forget that.

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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 05:03 am UTC (link)
It's not about Never mind, okay? I'll figure it out.

I'll let you know when I have time to get together.

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 05:11 am UTC (link)
Have I ever told you I talk too damn much? You will figure it out and Jess will understand.

Make sure you do. Try not to beat yourself up to much in the meantime, because what you did here took balls of solid rock.

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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 05:17 am UTC (link)
It's okay. It's just frustrating to try to explain, I don't think I really understand it myself.

I'm not beating myself up. I'm not worried about being unworthy of her. At least, not any more than normal. I just have this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that I can't shake, especially when I'm looking at Jess. But it's not because of her, it's because of me. And Ruby.

But you were trying to make me feel better. The sentiment isn't unappreciated.

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 05:37 am UTC (link)
You can't put it into words and I'm sucking at it just as much!

Believe me, I get it. Stefan, Damon, the gut-wrenching twist I get when I'm in the same room with them... I don't know how it is for you, but for me it feels like walking a tight rope, every minute of every day, without a net, except it isn't me that gets to fall when I trip. It's Damon.

I'm kinda new at this whole support-network thing and it's clearly showing. Really wish there were something that could make it all better for you, but something tells me we're way out of band-aid territory.

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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 06:01 am UTC (link)
There's the usual gut-wrench of guilt when I think about how much she's been hurt because of me, how much crazy she's still dealing with because of me. How much trouble I could still cause her. This is different. And to be fair, it's hard to be a support network for someone when they can't even describe what's going on with them.



But. I [...] don't sleep with women I hate. Not even her, I didn't hate her at the time. I just hated myself, and the fact that she still... that I thought she still saw some good in me, that was important. Except she didn't. She didn't care about me despite the things that made me awful, she cared because of it. She probably saw me as some... extension of Lucifer himself, or something. And that... really bothers me, in retrospect. It's so sick and twisted.

I guess it didn't really matter before, because she was dead. But now she isn't, so I actually have to think about it.

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 06:34 am UTC (link)
Jess chose you, Sam. She may not have understood all that it entails and maybe now she'll get the opportunity to really choose. Eyes wide open.

Hey, we're both trying, isn't that what counts in the end? The weird part for me is actually wanting to be some kind of support, even though my usual role is more a-kin to Ruby's. Consider that a win, even if I screw this up royally.

As dysfunctional relationships go, it's a doozy, alright but that's not telling you anything you don't already know. I'm not sure focusing on Ruby's motivations is going to get you too far, unless you're actually willing to talk it through with her and I'm guessing that's a big tick in the 'hell no!' column.

To me, as someone who doesn't know your world, it sounds like you were just lost and when you found something solid to cling to, however temporary the relief, you held on tight. That you cared for Ruby says more about you as a man than your failings. You'd lost Dean and with him a part of yourself and she gave you something to believe in, even if it was an illusion.

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Kat/Sam
[info]bornunder
2014-07-14 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, we're trying. But I don't have much confidence that she'll understand it, if I can't explain it to you.

I should probably just go and talk to her, instead of trying to explain it to someone else, anyway.

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Kat/Sam
[info]pierce_kat
2014-07-14 10:54 pm UTC (link)
The words might not be perfect, but I'm not sure feelings were ever meant to be explained away. I do understand what you're trying to say, even if it doesn't seem that way. If nothing else, at least you've had someone to bounce the ideas off until you're closer to knowing exactly what you do want to tell Jess.

You're gonna do fine, Sam. Let me know how you get on and after you've got it sorted you and I need to go and cut loose and do something childish and fun after all this angst and seriousness. Good luck.

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