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Maryanne Elizabeth Walker (maryanne_walker) wrote in compass_network,
@ 2013-06-23 02:13:00

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!open, jake sully, maryanne walker (oe), ~isabel lane, ~tony stark

Three key quotes that everyone should know and take to heart. Because there are far to many people who think themselves smart, or 'wise', on this island, yet close themselves off to learning anything new about anyone or anything.

"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-William Shakespeare

“To know that you do not know is the best. To pretend to know when you do not know is a disease.”
-Lao-Tzu

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
-Socrates

They all three say close to the same thing. And all three men knew what they said to be true about themselves.

My question is, are you going to die the fool? Or will you become wise before you die?

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maryanne_walker
2013-06-23 11:40 pm UTC (link)

Actually I dismissed you the moment you got here. You see, I've read portrait of Dorian Gray. I only answered you in attempt to be polite. And learned that I was correct in dismissing you.

I simply decided the opinion of someone as two dimensional as you are, unworthy of my time, because you've been here all of five seconds and you're already reading between lines that aren't there. And you think yourself witty in doing so.

And I offered you a good stay, because I have no reason to speak to you any farther.

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hedonism
2013-06-23 11:52 pm UTC (link)

Darling, it doesn't surprise me that you misinterpreted my book like you misinterpreted those quotes - if you don't understand the complexities of living without perceived guilt or accepted remorse; of hedonism and the importance of being earnest and living for pleasure without impediment or judgement - I don't know what to tell you.

It rains on the moral and amoral alike - it's learning that there is no difference that's the real trick, and until you do - as those quotes said, you know nothing.

Basing your opinion of me on what you thought was true it, officially the highest form of intolerance and ignorance.

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maryanne_walker
2013-06-24 05:49 am UTC (link)

Actually I didn't misinterpret your book, or the quotes, you're just reading it that way. Because like so many people you see lines that aren't there. And then look for the things between them.

I see no point in arguing with a man that either doesn't have the ability, or the want, to feel guilt or remorse. It would be like talking in circles, you might enjoy it but it gives me a headache, and I feel rather stabby when I get a headache. If not bitey, clawy and bonecrunchy.

Also, I don't feel the need to explain myself to someone who's been here five seconds, someone who either doesn't know or doesn't care about the plight of the rest of the island. So lets put things simply, you're not my tea and crackers, sweetheart, and lets move on. If you were, I would have talked to you before now. I'm neither saying your way of life is wrong, or that you need to change it, I'm just saying I'm not interested.

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	doriangray 2013-06-24 01:05 pm UTC (link)
	...Yet you expect someone else to explain themselves to you or you call them out as a jackass and a fool -- and tell me you know me better than I know myself. How is that anything but the same willing ignorance you're complaining about in others? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

maryanne_walker
2013-06-24 01:12 pm UTC (link)

Again, reading things into what I say really gets pretty boring for me. Nowhere did I say 'explain yourself'. To anyone. Nor did I claim to know you better than you know yourself. But I will tell you, you're coming off pretty foolish considering you don't know what's going on.

Tell me, Mister Gray, this feminine thing you do, where you put information into other peoples words that isn't there: Is it something you always do? Or am I simply lucky?

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	hedonism 2013-06-24 01:30 pm UTC (link)
	Are you always this misogynistic? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	maryanne_walker 2013-06-24 01:37 pm UTC (link)
	No, I just dislike that all the coy attempts that have men trained to see things that aren't there. Especially when they really aren't there. To me The means The, and it should stay The. There shouldn't be kittens hiding in the letters. It makes talking to people harder than it really should be. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

hedonism
2013-06-24 01:44 pm UTC (link)

If I tell you that you are wrong about my life story and you tell me that your aren't how is that anything but you blatantly stating you think you know me better than I do?

As for the initial quotes, idiot, you wouldn't have stated them if you didn't think they had meaning -- you just got what's between the lines wrong. Which isn't a masculine or feminine trait at all.

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maryanne_walker
2013-06-24 02:07 pm UTC (link)

Really insults? You should have really stopped while you were ahead, but I guess since you do like to run at the mouth I should have expected it. Why don't you be a sweetheart and return to laying on your back, because that's all you're good for.

The adults are talking about things that were far more important than your ego. And you probably wouldn't understand. Do I need to get you an ABC book to occupy you? Or perhaps a large type dictionary so you can learn the meanings to the words that are actually being written?

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tonystark
2013-06-23 11:57 pm UTC (link)

It's The Picture of Dorian Gray. You're thinking of A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. It's an easy mistake to make. But harder if you've actually read the book. Either way, allow me to make an important distinction: while the picture was two-dimensional, that doesn't mean that the individual depicted was.

In any case, you would be wise to note that your argument has devolved into the logical fallacy known as an Ad hominem attack, presumably because you didn't like his point, but found yourself unwilling or unable to counter it with logical arguments or salient facts. But I suppose in your defense, it would be difficult to argue against it, as you have now repeatedly demonstrated that you are quite unwilling to hear what he has to say, and seem to think you already know better. Than Dorian, yes, but also than the specific people whom you think are not sufficiently open-minded, by criteria you have yet to disclose.

Which was, more or less, his original point.

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	Tony \| Dorian hedonism 2013-06-24 12:08 am UTC (link)
	Tony, she isn't going to listen and you don't need to make enemies - she already has her mind made up to hate me, so leave it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian tonysnark 2013-06-24 12:14 am UTC (link)
	I might need to make enemies. I had a lot back home. Not having any here feels wrong somehow. I don't know where everyone is getting this idea that they know who you are, or why you do what you do. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian hedonism 2013-06-24 12:57 am UTC (link)
	We've talked about this before, she isn't proving her point, she's attempting to disprove my humanity to render me invalid because I disagree. It's the oldest trick in the book. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian tonystark 2013-06-24 01:02 am UTC (link)
	It's a dumb trick from a fucked-up book. I've known plenty of people with less humanity than you who still got full credit for being human. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian hedonism 2013-06-24 01:08 am UTC (link)
	I just don't see the point of making any sort of argument that you can't support under scrutiny. It's just worse that this was...about ignorance. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian tonystark 2013-06-24 01:15 am UTC (link)
	It was only appropriate that Irony Man made an appearance. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Tony \| Dorian doriangray 2013-06-24 05:39 am UTC (link)
	Oh my God. You nearly made me choke on my Zinfandel. Leave the puns to me, Darling, from now on. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)