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Caspar Leyton (brannenford) wrote in compass_network,
@ 2022-03-11 07:41:00

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richie tozier, ~caspar leyton

Whichever magical person has done this to me, you have had your laugh at my expense, now please undo it.

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trash_mouth
2022-03-11 11:16 am UTC (link)

I...wasn't talking about telekinetics. But, same thing I guess. I understand that in your time choosing not to follow your religion would be just as bad but here, where it's not something I need to do, I would never choose to associate myself with people so cruel.

We both fight. What I'm trying to say is like...if I was standing next to my mother and a man who is able-bodied but didn't know how to fight, didn't have the skills or weapons she has access to at any moment and something was coming at us, and I could only protect one of them, I would protect him. I would choose based on need and skill not gender.

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	Private brannenford 2022-03-11 11:22 am UTC (link)
	What were you talking about? I'm not a very good Christian, if I'm honest. My sister would have had chapter and verse for you earlier. I try, though, and I think that the cruel people don't see their own sin. I would protect my mother over a stranger, every time, and a woman I didn't know over a man I didn't know. It's a matter of differing priorities, I think. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Private trash_mouth 2022-03-11 11:26 am UTC (link)
	I'm gay. I don't think being a good Christian should be about knowing a chapter or verse. It should be about being a good person. And you can't be a good person if you don't accept people for who they are. Possibly. I'd just hate to see a man harmed for his perceived superiority just as much as I'd hate to see a woman belittled for the idea she is less. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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brannenford
2022-03-11 11:36 am UTC (link)

That? There are people who would want you dead for that? It's a sin, but who hasn't sinned? If you lived in some little village in Pretannica you might have difficulty if you couldn't be discreet, but in the cities nobody cares about those things. I have a natural daughter at home, that's just as much a sin. Let he who is without them throw the first stone. I do know that much of my Bible.

That you see a duty of protection as somehow belittling illustrates why we cannot agree, I think. If there were trouble now and some man tried to protect me, thinking me to be the woman I currently appear to be, I wouldn't be offended by it.

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trash_mouth
2022-03-11 11:44 am UTC (link)

Things must change along the line somewhere. When I'm from it's treated much more harshly than simple sin. And either way, I still wouldn't want to be a part of something that saw a part of myself that I have no choice over as being so wrong.

I don't mean just in the instance of protection. In anything. Women being told they can't hold certain jobs, men being told that certain hobbies are too feminine for them to enjoy. Men being taught not to show emotion and chastised for crying when they're hurt because it's womanly. Women being told that being strong is manly and no one will love them for it. Men and women both are hurt by the ideas that men are strong and women are weak.

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brannenford
2022-03-11 11:56 am UTC (link)

Yes, or the place you are from may be different from my homeland in ways we aren't perceiving. I don't like to think that Pretannica will become that way someday, either a harsh place to live or a very hypocritical one.

I know a few men who take the view that shedding tears over art or poetry is a sign of exquisite refinement and taste, but in general it isn't right for a man to cry. It's childish. I don't think it is true that nobody will love a masculine woman, but it may make her life more difficult, just as life is kinder to a beautiful woman than to a plain one. It is not fair, but pretending it isn't true won't help her.

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trash_mouth
2022-03-11 12:00 pm UTC (link)

I'd hope that too, nowhere should be that way. And I'd hope they get better about telekinetics as well, there's no reason people should be cast out because of something they can't control.

But if we don't look at things like crying being feminine or strength being masculine then maybe life wouldn't be so hard. Men should be allowed to have emotion, women should be allowed to show strength. We shouldn't be so restricted by, again, something we never chose to be.

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brannenford
2022-03-11 12:08 pm UTC (link)

I hope for that, but in the case of telekinetics much of it is down to fear of us, and that is not easily set aside.

You are a dreamer! I like that in you. Here, I think there is something we can test. Women are more naturally emotional than men, it is said, and they have less control over their emotions, and that is why it is not wrong for a woman to cry, as it is for a man. The last time I cried, I was twelve years old. If I now find myself weeping over things, it will be proof of some physiological difference in women, wouldn't you say? As I am the same person, but in a different body.

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	Re: Private trash_mouth 2022-03-12 08:53 am UTC (link)
	It's harder to be afraid of something when you know it. Maybe eventually they'll figure that out. As long as it's actually because of a difference and not just because you have permission now. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Private brannenford 2022-03-12 10:31 am UTC (link)
	It complicates matters that a telekinetic is actually capable of doing them harm. I wouldn't, obviously, and if I wanted to attack someone I could just as easily shoot at them as use my talent, but some don't see it that way. What? Of course it would mean there was a difference. I don't want to cry. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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