| What Would Brian Kinney Think? |
[May. 15th, 2012|10:23 am] |
I was reading a fic recently in which the author had Justin express to someone that he was lucky Brian took him back in 308.
I have watched that episode 4,567,987 times (approx.), and although I do know Justin essentially schemed and plotted to get Brian to take him back, the one who expressed the closest thing to a sense of gratitude was actually BRIAN. See icon for photographic evidence. Also, if you look at early Season Three, can there be any question that Brian sees Justin as something rare and wonderful that he yearns for, in a manly, twisted, Kinney-esque way?
So forget the bad!fic, the fanon, the Brianite meta, and answer just one question for me: Do you think BRIAN would have said Justin is lucky he took him back? Or would he have looked at you like you had six arms and a belly button in the middle of your forehead if you made that remark?
Also, do you think Justin felt he was "lucky" Brian "took him back"?
Because I honestly believe most of the interactions between Brian and Justin in 308 were essentially coded conversations about the issues they'd faced and what broke them up, and that they were both aware of the things they'd done wrong when they were together before, regretted them, and wanted to do things differently in the future.
And I really believe putting expressions of gratitude by Justin that Brian forgave him and took him back are not based on canon. What do you think? |
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| Favorite thing about the B/J relationship |
[Apr. 15th, 2012|12:22 pm] |
We're only two episodes into season three over at QAF Marathons, but I'm already remembering so many awesome things about B/J and their relationship, even while they are broken up.
My favorite thing about their relationship, or at least one of my favorites, is how they always, always try to take care of each other. Even when they don't have to. Even when they are broken up or angry at each other.
Brian didn't have to pay for Justin's school, even if it was their deal. Justin didn't have to run to Brian's rescue when his nephew pressed charges. Brian could have gotten any other artist who worked for him to make the carnival posters, but he chose Justin and paid him. Justin arranged the fundraiser in S4 to help raise money so Brian could keep the loft.
That's what they do for each other. They are always willing to come to the rescue of the other. And these are just some of the examples--there are a ton more.
So, what's your favorite thing about the B/J relationship? |
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| Justin & art |
[Dec. 17th, 2011|11:42 pm] |
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I've always had some curiosity about Justin and his career. When would you say Justin began working as 'an artist'? I mean, during the first four seasons we have seen him doing drawings, sketches, mostly of Brian, or graphic stuff for school but it's not until season five and the show at Lindsey's gallery that I noticed he was actually 'producing' art work. Before having his studio in Season 5, where did he paint? because suddenly he was all artist-y and his studio was full of canvases and stuff ¿what do you think, guys? |
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| Do you know how to make a creatine shake? |
[Dec. 13th, 2011|03:39 pm] |
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I find it funny that in what we read/write about guava juice is often included in the story, yet a creatine shake never is, though that was what Brian first asked for before leaving for the gym...Thoughts? |
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| Suit or Tux? |
[Oct. 27th, 2011|05:02 pm] |
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I'm trying to write a fic where I refer to the prom, but I'm unsure about something, when Brian walks in to the prom is he wearing a suit or a tuxedo? I think it may be a tux but the reasonable side of my brain wonders where he would get a tux from on short notice and there's the fact that he has suits at his loft which would just be there for the taking, I can't rewatch the episode to find out right now so can anyone tell me, please? |
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| QAF Gift Exchange 2011 |
[Oct. 24th, 2011|10:22 am] |
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| You are sooo good at this homosexual thing! |
[Sep. 13th, 2011|08:09 pm] |
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All right, so I've been wondering something for a little while about a moment in QAF I can't seem to find. Now, mind you, I pride myself on having seen every episode many times, (I end every day by asking my roommates to give me a random season and episode number to watch.) but I can't seem to find an answer to my question in the context of the show. Hopefully, one of you lovely fans can help me out!
There are numerous references to Brian having told Justin that he wants to make him "the best homosexual he can possibly be." Just off the top of my head--Justin mentions it when he wants to be a dancer at Babylon (S2); he mentions it again during the whole Stockwell debacle with the posters (S3), and of course Brian tells Justin he's become the best homosexual he can possibly be in the finale (S5).
So my question is, do we ever actually see this happen? And if not, when would Brian have said something like that to Justin? My instinct would be early in the series when Justin was, how shall we say, puppy-like, and Brian was enjoying his status as an entity to be worshipped, but then again, I find it a little difficult to imagine season one Brian sitting Justin down and saying, "I'm going to teach you how to be as amazing as I am!" It just seems strange that he would have much of a conversation with Justin at all so early on.
What do you all think?? Did I just miss this completely? Has anyone tried their hand at writing this moment if it's not in the show? I'd love to read it!! Thanks!!! |
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[Aug. 20th, 2011|07:30 pm] |
I've spent several hours today reading various fiction in which Brian and Justin eventually end up having a child (via surrogate or adoption). While a lot of it's ridiculously cute, particularly yoursweater's Elliott verse and alphabet_magic's Max stories, I always wonder about how the decision to have a child would have come about (I've yet to read a fic that, imo, believably discusses this) and if, in canon, a baby would actually ever happen.
I certainly think the show, in some aspects, cracks the door on the matter or at least turns the doorknob, with Justin's "maybe even a family" idea about the future and his and Daphne's talk (I haven't seen it in years, so I can't remember exactly) when they're babysitting Jenny Rebecca in s5, so to me it's not something that comes out of left field. But tbh, my brain almost explodes whenever I try to think of Brian consenting to raising a child with Justin. Not that I don't think it'd ever happen, but it's just imagining *how* it would happen that I can't wrap my brain around.
I know Brian loves Gus, and I don't think he opposes the idea of fatherhood, but being a full-time father? Giving up his fuck-time with Justin in order to change, feed, bathe, and nurture a baby? I find it difficult to imagine.
So....what do you think? In your idea of post-s5 Brian and Justin with their life together going on into infinity, does a baby ever enter the picture, and if so, how? If not, why not? |
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| How did Brian know? |
[Jul. 16th, 2011|02:36 am] |
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I was watching I think it was 208 and I keep having the same thought, How did Brian know that Justin kissed the Virgin? What are your theories? |
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| Question about 309 |
[Jul. 14th, 2011|08:05 pm] |
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Watching this scene from 309
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[Jun. 29th, 2011|01:34 am] |
I am trying to work out why the end of QAF hit me so hard. I know, sometimes I get emotionally involved with fictional characters (electronic devices are another love interest of mine.... anyway..), but this was something different. I cant watch it without crying and feeling down for a week (or three).
So far I have come out with the following reasons:
- The ending is annoying and frustrating - I kind of want to shake them (which is hard to do to fictional characters). It is not a sacrifice to do what makes you happy. They are sacrificing their happiness by not being together - now that is fucked up
- They could define marriage how ever they wanted to. You can have an open marriage, you do not always need to live in the same place, None of that matters. But, the point is, you are going though life together. You are each others medical proxy, you are the first emergency contact, in your decisions you always consider your partners needs as well as your own, what one does effects the other.
They were there, they could have done it.
- Because, Gd they had something great. Don't through away something that important and that rare.
- Because the writers writing and Gales acting was so fantastic that I think that Brian is real.
- I don't think Brian will ever full in love like that again. Justin might, but I think brian will never have that type of relationship again. Justin is his one chance to be happy.
- Because I dont think I can love again (as a partner not other forms of love. I am quite good at other forms of love, but I digress) or, in the context of me, I dont believe in couples. But Brian didn't either, but then he did, so maybe i do? Maybe I am morning his loss because I deny my own. Naah, I don't want love, I'm fine. Just a bit self obsessed.
- Because if they live in different cities, they wont have so much sex, and I wont get to watch them having sooo much sex.
- Because they went though so much and then just ..ahhhhhhyaaa (frustrated growling noise)
Do these speak to you? Do you have any reasons that I missed?
AM I living vicarious though Brian? Hmmmm |
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| Brian Getting Hit? |
[Jun. 17th, 2011|05:40 pm] |
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I know in Fandom it seems to be pretty much known that Jack hit Brian when he was younger, but I'm wondering where that idea came from? I know there was the scene with Joan saying "You don't know how many times I had to let him hit me so he wouldn't hit you." Or something like that, but are there any other reasons why Fandom thinks this? |
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| QAF musings |
[Jun. 17th, 2011|08:19 am] |
This is a newbe post- if it is off topic please let me know.
anyway..
One of the aspects of QAFs brilliance is its brave ability to portray issues that we sometimes prefer not to think about. But sometimes I feel the need to talk them over....
Season 1 - The age differences between B and J and the fact tat Justin is a minor. Fandom seem to be OK with this, but as a parent of a teenager I don't think I am. what would your reaction be to an irresponsible and promiscuous 30 year old that is sleeping with your kid, changing him and influencing/controlling every decision that the kid makes, taking over your role, putting him in danger?
(Personally, If I was Justins parent I would want him to do at least some business courses with his art degree.)
His parents opinions become irrelevant when Brain buys him a drink, dances and kisses him. And ..in season one Jenifer cares about Justin a hell of a lot more then Brain does.
We all love Brian, but if we didnt, if he was less beautiful, would we still be as tolerant?
This relationship seems to be "the love that dare not speak its name " or the Greek man/boy relationship. Oscar Wild wrote about it (and was jailed for it).
One aspect that QAF brings out is the huge influence and power the man has over the boy. (to some extent, as the relationship progresses, it is the other way around)
Brain becomes an Idol, a role model, a parent.
Are we OK with it? |
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[Jun. 13th, 2011|11:34 pm] |
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| *dirty canvases to call my own* |
[Jun. 6th, 2011|09:09 am] |
*clears out the cobwebs*
Doesn't look like the coffee club has been too busy lately...but I do have a question that never occurred to me before...it's really a fandom question and not a show question, but I'm offering it up for discussion anyway.
This came up the other day when I was chatting to Besa. Even though she's not into QaF anymore, she indulges me occasionally. We were actually talking about the Harry Potter fandom first. I read a TON more HP (well, really Harry/Draco) than QaF. I have a good reason for that (at least in my mind), but that's not really what my question is about.
It's the almost *complete* lack of original art in Queer as Folk fandom...in the HP fandom, there is tons and tons and tons of it, every pairing and scenario imaginable. Yet, in Queer as Folk, I can't think of any instance where I've seen any kind of art depicting even Justin and Brian, who are BEAUTIFUL people. Wonder why that is?
I know we have talented artists here that make banners and icons and lovely art, but it's always using the images that already exist from the show.
Thoughts? |
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| bj_action Theme #16: Let's Get Soaking Wet |
[May. 21st, 2011|09:41 am] |
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| Pimping New Asylum, QAF One-liners |
[May. 16th, 2011|09:09 pm] |
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| I Love You question |
[May. 12th, 2011|10:57 pm] |
Besides when Justin told Brian he loved him before Brian left for his "Ibiza trip," (407) when else did Justin say the words? perhaps some end of S5 scenes....I'll re-watch those, but if any knows of some other S1-4 instances, that would be super helpful! thanks! |
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| Emmett Question!!! |
[Apr. 14th, 2011|04:52 pm] |
So, in comparison to the rest of QaF gang, how old is Em? Would you say he's younger than Michael and Brian or roughly the same age?
Was his age ever mentioned on the show?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide! |
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| What relationship would you have liked to see more of? |
[Apr. 11th, 2011|05:44 pm] |
Sorry if this topic has been discussed before....
Lately I've been thinking about how the non-romantic relationships on QAF evolve over time and go in unexpected directions (like with Ted and Brian). However, there are some relationships that I wish the writers had let us see more of because I think they have so much potential.
The relationship that I wish had been explored more is the friendship that developed between Carl and Emmett. I think there is/was great potential for a father-son relationship that Emmett in particular could benefit from. It seems like his only adult 'caretaker' as a child was his Aunt Lula. So I think the possibility of having a father figure that he could trust unconditionally would be a relationship that he would really value.
We see a couple of scenes: where Emmett talks to Carl when Deb's in crisis over Vic, where Carl talks to Emmett about staying at the house. When Carl tells Em that he's a good man, you can see that he wants Emmett to take it to heart (like any good parent). So very good scenes, but I would have loved to see some more.
Any relationship that you'd like to have seen on-screen more? |
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