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Belle has her nose stuck in a book ([info]iwantsomuchmore) wrote in [info]wariscomingcom,
@ 2012-07-03 11:42:00

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Entry tags:ariel, belle, cara, chloe sullivan, emma swan, enjolras, eponine, harry lockhart, lexi branson, lois lane, peter vincent, zatanna zatara

filtered against evil
Between catching up on all the history I have missed as well as trying to research the apocalypse, I found something called "The Complete Works of William Shakespeare" and have read some of the sonnets and plays. I think it fascinating how much he was able to write and the different genres but some of it seems far fetched, even for fiction.

"Never was there a tale of such woe than this of Juliet and her Romeo"

Apparently this is one of his more famous works and is a tragedy as the two title characters died. I just do not see how dying because of a rash decision is tragic? They said it was love but the entire plot takes place in a week. The meeting and marriage I a day...

I have nothing against romance and love stories but this seemed more a story on things not thought out and is then described as a love story for all times.



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[info]feelingepic
2012-07-03 06:59 pm UTC (link)
...Still a better love story than Twilight?

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[info]smokingmagician
2012-07-03 07:06 pm UTC (link)
YES.

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[info]feelingepic
2012-07-03 07:08 pm UTC (link)
And once again you're agreeing with me :P

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(no subject) - [info]smokingmagician, 2012-07-03 07:10 pm UTC
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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-03 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Twilight?

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[info]feelingepic
2012-07-03 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Yeaah, you don't want to read it. It will make you sad for humanity. Trust me

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[info]lostfairytale
2012-07-03 07:26 pm UTC (link)
You'll scar yourself. If Romeo and Juliet hurt your head, Twilight will make it explode.

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(no subject) - [info]iwantsomuchmore, 2012-07-03 09:40 pm UTC
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[info]watch_tower
2012-07-03 09:56 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't say twilight is a love story so much as poorely written fan fiction.

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[info]feelingepic
2012-07-03 09:58 pm UTC (link)
This. <3

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-04 12:17 am UTC (link)
Fan fiction?

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[info]bad_narrator
2012-07-03 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Well, sometimes you meet the right one and you just know. You don't believe in love at first sight? I think it was supposed to be that whole loss of potential type thing, you know? Separated by family feud, died before their time, and all that stuff.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-03 09:39 pm UTC (link)
People are too complicated to know love in one look. There are so many aspects that makes you who you are and love, at least that I have witnessed, is about all of those traits. About the person and how another person understands them and sees them even if they do not show parts of themselves.

That could be. Even if it seems silly to think Romeo suddenly loved Juliet when hours before he was speaking of his love for someone else. And Juliet was only fourteen. But the potential their lives had was certainly lost.

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[info]thatlanewit
2012-07-03 07:20 pm UTC (link)
I prefer the retelling of it in West Side Story.

Shakespeare is important though. He added a number of words to the English language, or at least that's the little I remember about what my ninth grade teacher was always saying.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-03 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I will look into that. Is it a book or one of the moving pictures?

I can see he is important and enjoyed other plays and sonnets I have read so far. This one just seems impractical to me when it is spoken so highly of in regards to love.

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(no subject) - [info]thatlanewit, 2012-07-03 10:17 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]iwantsomuchmore, 2012-07-04 12:18 am UTC
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[info]lostfairytale
2012-07-03 07:32 pm UTC (link)
They're trying to go for the 'love lost over stupid reasons' angle. And that whole love at first sight thing, which is insane.

If you want better Shakespeare, try Taming of the Shrew. Or The Merry Wives of Windsor.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-03 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I just do not understand the concept of love at first sight, I guess. People are so complicated that there is no way to know with one look and meeting. Or this is why I am odd for wanting to see beneath the surface. But I prefer that to following blindly.

I will look into those two. I just started A Midsummer Night Dream.

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(no subject) - [info]lostfairytale, 2012-07-03 10:38 pm UTC
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[info]decidewhoweare
2012-07-03 09:17 pm UTC (link)
William Shakespeare is one of the greatest writers of all time. He contributed much to the play, a dying art at the time. But I prefer Macbeth and Othello to this one.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-03 09:27 pm UTC (link)
I have not gotten to those two yet. I really enjoyed Much Ado About Nothing, though. I can see that he is talented and a great writer. It is just this particular one seems to be glorified and I do not see why. It would be unhealthy to judge ones relationships on this one.

Or maybe because I have never been in love, I do not understand. I just think there is more to it than a single meeting and suddenly getting married only to kill yourself. I understand the desire to do something on your own terms, even if I thought the way it was gone about was foolish.

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[info]watch_tower
2012-07-03 09:54 pm UTC (link)
It is highly overrated. If you ask me, they are more rebellious teenagers than a couple in love, I think they loved the idea of being together just because it meant going against everything their families had told them their whole lives.

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[info]zee_magician
2012-07-04 01:06 am UTC (link)
I never did understand what was so romantic about people killing themselves.

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[info]mord_sith
2012-07-03 10:40 pm UTC (link)
The marriage must have been arranged.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-04 12:11 am UTC (link)
It was not. Their families hated one another so Romeo snuck into a party that Juliet's family/house was throwing. They met there. Fell 'in love' and after a night together, he went away, she sent her nurse to get him and they were married. He then left after a day because he had killed her cousin and ran to survive. During his absence, Juliet is told she is to marry another man and so she fakes her death. Romeo heard of this, went to her grave and killed himself just as she woke up from her fake death so she killed herself as well.

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[info]toldyouiddoit
2012-07-04 12:07 am UTC (link)
What do you mean a rash decision? I don't think many expect death when it finds them

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-04 12:13 am UTC (link)
The two met and within a day were married, that is their rash decision. And while one does not expect death when it comes normally, they ended their own lives willingly because they could 'not live without' the other despite barely knowing the other. Juliet initially faked her death to get out of an arranged marriage but Romeo did not know so he went and killed himself and then she killed herself upon seeing him dead.

While love is indeed powerful, that level is impossible when you really have only known the person for a day before once again being separated. The decision to marry was rash after just a day, as was the decision to end their lives.

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(no subject) - [info]toldyouiddoit, 2012-07-04 12:24 am UTC
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[info]onlythreedays
2012-07-04 02:08 am UTC (link)
Even if they hadn't really been in love, they thought they were and for them to die for one another is tragic. If they had waited or the timing had been different, they would still be together in life. What isn't woeful about that...?

The Tempest was better, but still.

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[info]iwantsomuchmore
2012-07-04 02:50 am UTC (link)
I really have no idea what was happening with you and
I think I am missing something
Was that your 'life' she mentioned? That is the only thing I can


Perhaps. I do not think the tragedy is because of the love, though. In making their own tragedy? Yes. In other comments about other ideas, yes. But not for what it is glorified as, I guess. Especially when people seem to think that is what love should be when it really is not healthy.

I have not gotten to The Tempest yet but I do look forward to it.

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