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Caroline Forbes ([info]agelessbeauty) wrote in [info]wariscoming,
@ 2014-09-07 08:04:00

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Entry tags:caroline forbes, kol mikaelson

Who: Caroline and Kol
What: a needed conversation
When: today!
Where: out and about in Lawrence
Warnings:I doubt it!



After coming back from Sunnydale Caroline had allowed herself a few days of staying close to Klaus, of trying to forget the outside world for a bit and focusing on her and him and on the new apparent robot dinosaur obsession of the tiniest Mikaelson. But once Saturday hit she sped full throttle forward into her usual coping strategies. Moping about what happened wouldn’t help any, it wasn’t her style to do so either, and so she pushed to plan something festive, something that could let everyone come together and have some fun.

Planning had always helped her clear her head, helped her focus her attention as well and she had a feeling that a hundred years from now she’d still be using it as her go-to for everything ever. Being idle wasn’t in her vocabulary even when she was relaxing she was usually plotting out something in her head. Unless she was distracted and there were only a few people who could thoroughly distract her like that.

She was out ordering different items she wanted for the party when she spotted Kol. They’d gone from him being openly antagonistic to her to him calling her family and the two of them confiding in one another to she wasn’t even sure what they were now. It simply wasn’t the same as it had been though, she did know that. Not that she wasn’t allowed to have relationships with the others simply because Klaus had decided to cut off all ties but it was hard to know exactly where she stood in the middle of all of that. Especially after reading conversations she wished she’d never seen.

But hiding away wasn’t something she was about to do and she thought she and Kol were slowly working through all that had happened even if she still felt like some kind of wall had been put up between them and wasn’t yet fully broken down.

“If it isn’t my second favorite Mikaelson brother.”


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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-07 04:20 pm UTC (link)
Things had been rough lately. The week he'd spent watching terrible things happen to his family, his friends, Crowley and Anna, it had been sheer torture. Stuck here, powerless to warn them, to help them. At least Bekah and Henrik had been sent to descent places and he's gotten to watch Alex pull pranks on other people.

The week he'd spent at Marcel's with Nik had been...interesting, was really the only word he could think to describe it. There was a constant tension that hung in the air between them, but they'd talked. And it was a...complicated talk, some of it was good, some of it was not so good, but he'd already accepted that all of it needing saying, and hearing, on both their parts. Maybe a little more on his part than Nik's. Whatever came of it, Kol could at least know that even separated this way, even though he didn't miss him, his brother still loved him. And silly as it was, Kol had legitimately been worried--scared, that maybe he didn't and that had played into him walking away. (...)

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-07 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Since they'd returned, Kol had mostly stuck right by Crowley and Anna, had barely left their sides at all, but he knew that was probably a little overwhelming and he sort of needed to clear his head anyway, so he'd gone out for a bit. Nowhere in particular, really, just out wandering. He hadn't expected to be spotted, but he couldn't entirely hate it anyway.

"Hey," he smiled when Caroline walked over to him, "what're you doing?" The evolution of his relationship with the former cheerleader was one for the books, so many ups and downs it was hard to keep up sometimes. He just hoped that they were headed towards an 'up' again.

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-07 04:59 pm UTC (link)
He was offered up a pretty big smile because she was happy to see him inspite of everything else. She needed to see everyone which was part of the reason behind the party in the first place. It was one thing to speak to everyone on the network and another thing entirely to speak to everyone in person. “I am shopping or well ordering for the party. Don’t currently have pools and things so I need to get those installed and all of that good stuff.”

Which it was kind of a headache with the whole week away part but she’d had tighter deadlines before. It would all go off just fine and she wouldn’t even resort to compulsion. Hopefully. Even if it was really tempting to do so. “Figured I should get it done today since I have to do classes tomorrow and will be changing my focus to that and all.” For those she probably would use a little compulsion. It’d be needed with the two week absence.

“But what are you doing out here? I’m surprised you’re not like locked away with Anna and Crowley still.” She had seen how upset Kol had been with the two of them not coming back right away like the rest and while she’d tried to hold an optimistic outlook on it for his sake and Elena’s, there was never any real certainty with the Seal.

“Wait. Are you busy? Because we should so have this conversation while sitting down and having drinks.” Alcoholic or caffeinated goodness worked for her.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-07 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Kol return the smile he was offered, he couldn't help it really, Caroline was sort of infectious in that way. Which wasn't such a bad thing. "You and your planning," he chuckled softly. She was brilliant with it, if he were honest. "You know, you could get paid for that."

"Classes, right. Got your excuses in hand or just going to compel this one?" He knew which he'd go for, but then he was the sort to take the easy way out whenever possible, cutting corners was sort of what he did.

"I have been completely stuck to them since they got. It was probably a little much." He was possessive. And he had been afraid that he'd lost them both. And that wasn't even in the realm of possibily acceptable outcomes. So, he'd panicked, and he'd clung. They were his. And no one, and nothing, would take them away from him. It was simple. Except that it wasn't.

"No," he shook his head, "not at all. What'd you have in mind? Starbucks or Lexi's?" He scoffed softly "Still can't believe you got me hooked on bloody Starbucks."

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-07 06:52 pm UTC (link)
“One day I will get paid for it but school first then business.” Eventually she’d build her own event planning business. It was in her ten year plan. Something she could do and travel the world with Klaus while running it. But she wanted to do school and learn languages and a whole slew of other things.

It was hard not to laugh at his comment about his addiction to Starbucks. “I say coffee for now.” Not that she couldn’t use a stiff drink but she did have a few other places to hit up before she had any alcohol. “And its completely reasonable, the whole sticking with them thing. I stuck with Klaus for the first few days so I get it.” The normalcy had been greatly needed during that time back.

“And I’m pretty sure there’s a Starbucks like right around the corner.” Because those shops were pretty much everywhere. Throw a stone and you were bound to hit one. Which was still an odd concept considering there hadn’t been one in Mystic Falls, just the local place. Chain stores had never done all that well in the close knit town.

Ten minutes later they were sitting at one of the tables, drinks in hand. “So...how are you? I figure a tiny bit better than you were the other day with the freakout of whether or not they’d be coming back.”

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-07 08:45 pm UTC (link)
The fact that Caroline had an event planning business built into her ten year plan, or that she had a ten year plan to begin with wasn't surprising to Kol at all. In fact, it fit her in so many ways it was actually amusing.

"Coffee it is then," he nodded and walked with her towards the coffee shop. They really were everywhere, they could probably take over the world of they wanted to? Maybe they were in the process of it already. He made a mental note to ask Crowley if he had a contract with the company.

Kol shrugged a bit at her question, taking a sip of his coffee before answering. "I mean, better, obviously, now that they're back. Kind've worried. About them, about you, Elijah..." He bit his lip, "and then there's everything else that has been waiting in the wings." Like Purgatory. Which he was only even more worried about now than he was before after watching Crowley die on the telly. He had thought he'd really lost him, and that was not something he was okay with at all.

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-07 09:03 pm UTC (link)
She had an idea about what Kol was worried about. How could she not? Purgatory and the whole debacle with what would happen to Crowley if that went crazy was something that had been lingering around Kol for a while now. Around everyone even if it had been pushed to the wayside with everything else going on.

“Everyone will be okay with some time.” Which at least her and Elijah had countless lifetimes worth of to work through what they’d experienced. “But I’m guessing you’re also thinking of Purgatory and all that goes along with that. And I dunno. Sam and co are probably helping with that too, right? Or finding out another way to stop Heaven and Hell from causing more fights.” She’d talked to Sam a while back but even that had been pushed to the side.

“Have you talked it over with Crowley lately?” That could help. Or it could make it even worse. Toss up really.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-07 09:42 pm UTC (link)
He nodded, "yeah, I'm sure they will." And he actually believed that. He couldn't help the smirk that crossed his lips at the question of Purgatory. He supposed it was not hard to guess that it was bothering him, he was hardly quiet about it. Kol was a vocal person by every definition of the word. But the fact that she picked it out of a number of things he could have been referring to was just another marker in the way their relationship had changed. She knew him so well. "Yeah, I really hate it, the whole idea of it."

Kol set his coffee down on the table and leaned back in the chair he was on, resisting the urge to tip the chair back on two legs as he nodded again. "Yeah, actually, I talked to Sam about it not too long ago. His plan, for now basically consists of dealing with the crazy of both factions as they come, same as we dealt with Lucifer and Michael, pick them off one by one. I like it better. Ends with less of Crowley potentially exploding." He sat back properly in the chair once again, leaning on his arms, "Kinda tried to talk to Crowley about it but I don't actually know if it helped deter him at all."

He shook his head, "Doesn't matter, I'll talk to him again. Maybe to Sam too. I dunno, but I'll figure something out. I won't lose him."

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-08 01:41 am UTC (link)
“He probably will hate the idea of simply taking out the threats that crop up but like you said way better option than the one where he could go all explodey.” Because that wouldn’t work out well for anyone. She didn’t even want to think of what would happen to Kol and Anna if that happened. Ruby Winchester probably wouldn’t take it well either. There had to be another way and maybe if people actually focused on it instead of letting it fall to the wayside they might actually figure out something to do. “Talking to him about it is probably for the best. Even if its a conversation you probably don’t want to have. Honesty really is the best policy.”

Not being honest only seemed to hurt everyone in the long run. Or at least that’s what Caroline thought. “I’m not even sure who’s still looking for Alphas, you know?” Klaus and Damon had been but that had kind of crashed and burned with the whole Elena accompanying them thing and then the fallout with Henrik and the rest of the family. “Klaus was but...yeah.” She shrugged, not really wanting to get into all that had happened over the summer between the family. It was kind of still a sore subject considering it had all gone down recently and was still unraveling.

“But you two were together while the rest of us were gone, right?” She wondered how that had gone. Maybe it had helped the two of them out? Except Klaus had said nothing was going to change when she’d returned so she kind of doubted that it had helped all that much.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-08 02:52 am UTC (link)
"Yeah, he sort of brushed it off a bit, sort of...the Purgatory plan will do that, large scale, I guess? Or maybe we weren't working on the same page, I dunno. This is why I need to talk to him again, but that'll be another time. Wen I actually feel up to that sort of conversation." Because truth was, any conversation about Purgatory tended to be rather draining, at least for Kol. because he was too close to it all.

Kol shrugged, sipping at his drink, "I have no idea either, I lost track between everything." Seal shenanigans, family drama, everything in between. There truly was never a dull moment in Lawrence. And that wasn't always a good thing.

"Me and Nik? Yeah," he nodded, "I was with him the last week, on his offer, actually. I admit, I was surprised by it, but truth is, even though he's happier without us...he still cares. And I get that now."

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-08 03:11 am UTC (link)
“Of course he still cares. You’re his family. You’ve been together through centuries.” She blinked, the meaning behind that seeming to dawn in her head. “Did you think he stopped caring?” Was that what had been going through Kol’s mind? Probably through Rebekah and Elijah’s as well. It would make sense if that was what the others thought was happening. She could understand why they probably saw it that way even if it was the furthest from the truth. Klaus loved them and would always love them, no matter what harsh things they might all do to one another. He just needed a break from the rest of it, and that she couldn’t blame him for. Especially not when he truly did seem happier to her.

“You can love someone and need time away from them. You loved them when you ran, didn’t you? That love didn’t just stop even though you needed a break from everything and time to go do your own thing, right?” Because when he wasn’t daggered wasn’t that what the others said Kol had been doing, running off to live his own life? She wondered if Kol even though of it like that though.

Caroline was aware that people couldn’t always see the similarities in their own actions when they were hurting because of someone else.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-08 02:36 pm UTC (link)
He nodded, she was right, he knew she was right, but at the time it hadn't felt that way. It had felt like it was his fault, it had felt like failure, it had felt like a point of no return, betrayal, giving up when all he had been doing was trying to fix things. It had felt...like a million things, but not that. But he knew differently now. "Yeah... I mean... he didn't just walk away from the drama, he walked away from us and he was so pressed about us not even talking to him, at all, and..." Kol shrugged a little. "it doesn't matter what I thought, I know it's not true."

"There you go again," he muttered softly, chuckling a little under his breath. "Making points that should be obvious...but somehow never seem to be until you point it out." She really did have a habit of doing that to him a lot.

He finished off what was left of his drink, taking a second to go throw it away, to give a break in the conversation and a reason to lead up to a conversation switch. Because he really didn't want to talk about their family issues right now. "But enough about me," Kol said, his tone almost teasingly chiding. "how are you? Considering." Considering she'd died, multiple times in another world where she was forced to be human again. Considering he knew how much she looked to planning things when she was stressed.

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-08 11:04 pm UTC (link)
How was she? That was a question that she really didn’t want to answer. She’d done her wallowing, done her crying bit and even gone through some of the anger part at what the Seal had done. It had made her vulnerable all over again and she’d died more times than she’d wanted, unable to do a thing any of the times. Caroline hated being that weak, never wanted to feel that way again, but letting all of that fester inside of her wasn’t the answer either. She’d rather spin what had happened on its head and make it into a positive.

“I’m dealing with it. I don’t want to just be fine. I hate the state of fine. But I’m not about to wallow in what happened either. I can’t change the fact that I died.” Three freaking times. “I can’t change the fact that you guys had to watch it all happen.” Which really angered her more than anything. Why couldn’t the Seal have spared the ones who’d been left behind from that kind of mental torture?

“That’s not what’s really annoying me lately anyway. Or maybe its because of what happened that I’m more annoyed at little things than usual. Not that they’re even little. Or maybe they are little but I’m not seeing them that way because I’m annoyed?” Catch-22 probably.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-08 11:17 pm UTC (link)
I'm dealing with it. What did that ever even really mean, though? Kol had dealt with a lot of things, but had he ever really dealt with them? He wasn't sure. It was a confusing sense of handling things and it never felt complete, not really. "What's wrong with fine?" he asked curiously, not quite sure what she was distinguishing it from. He thought fine was, well, fine. Was was bad about fine? "I don't blame you for not wallowing," he admitted. He never did either, really. And she was right. She couldn't change any of it, so dwelling on it wouldn't get her anywhere, any more than it would get any of them anywhere.

"It's not?" he arched an eyebrow at her. "Then what is it that's got you in a twist lately?" Kol actually would have assumed that's what any issue she had right now might have been tied to.

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-08 11:32 pm UTC (link)
“Fine is a horrible state of being. No one really wants to be fine. You’re not happy. You’d not sad. You’re just like there. It’s like a going through the motions state-of-being. And even then its not that. It’s the catch-all phrase people use when they’re anything but okay but they don’t want people to worry about them, but you kind of really need to be worrying about them.” At least that’s how it seemed to her. She felt that was how her circle of friends had always used the word. It was a brush off tactic--a don’t worry about me one.

“And.” Oh. How did she even begin to explain what was steadily beginning to increasingly annoy her the more she saw it? And explain it to Kol? That was the hard part. Maybe it was a silly thing to get annoyed about though. Maybe she needed to get talked down off the ledge about it because Caroline really couldn’t see it ending anytime soon and the irriation would only worsen.

“I dunno if I’m just picking up on it more or what but its really becoming aggravating how people keep on bringing up how your brother is apparently the worst person ever to exist. And like I get not liking him. I get hating him even for personal reasons that have to do with him being him and doing awful stuff to others. Like we should never have to be okay with the people who killed us or killed people we love.” Even if holding onto that hate really wasn’t helpful either. “But like...call him out on actual stuff. Because aside from family drama he’s actually been helpful to Lawrence at large. And its just annoying me. People went after that one guy for being mad at Loki, who hasn’t done any of the stuff yet that they’re mad at him about, but Davina is completely justified in her hatred for stuff Klaus hasn’t done yet. Like I don’t see the difference. I see why Davina and the other guy should get their hate but I...just don’t see the rest of it.”

The whole double standards thing was seriously real and annoying as hell.

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-08 11:56 pm UTC (link)
"Oh." Well, when she put it like that...he could see where it wasn't such a great state to be in. "Well, I guess that makes sense." Thinking of it, really, that's how he used the term as well, a simple brush over that meant he didn't want to deal with it.

The hesitation as she thought through how to explain it left room for Kol to shift, sitting further back in the chair instead of leaning forward on the table, more settled now. He was curious about whatever it was that was bothering her so much, though. He'd legitimately thought if anything it would have been everything that had happened in Sunnydale.

And it all boiled down to double standards, which Kol could admit were viscuously rampant in Lawrence. People pulled them out every chance they got, hell, he was probably guilty of it himself. But this. It was about Nik, and of course it would get to her like this. It was actually sort of ridiculous, the amount of hate spewed at his brother. Kol had his reasons for treating him the way he did. Not that it made it any better, really, but he did at least have reasons. Reasons he was slowly beginning to try and let go of more than he had in the past. It was a work in progress and he wasn't sure how long it would take, but he was working on it.

The way people went after him in the fashion she was talking about though, maybe he was filtered out of a lot of it, maybe he just wasn't paying as much attention to a lot of the other dramas going on. But he hadn't thought much about it really. Double standards were annoying as hell, but they were freaking everywhere and he usually just ignored it, lived his life and people be damned for whatever they thought of it. "Who's calling him out for bullshit stuff?" he couldn't help the question spilling out, almost immediately as she spoke. "I haven't paid much mind to the little witch's dramas, personally, I don't even know what she's on about, if I'm honest." He kept close to his inner circle these days, it was too much trouble to venture outside of it most of the time anymore.

"But basically, Loki's been here longer, that's really the only difference, isn't it? People rush to bat for him because he's done whatever he's done for the city through the years he's been here?" Kol honestly had no idea. Thinking on it like this, though, everything Nik had been saying was being put in even more of a perspective as well.

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[info]agelessbeauty
2014-09-09 12:54 am UTC (link)
“I don’t know. It’s all become kind of a blur for me. I just see side comments or jokes or stuff and I react which is so bad and I need to stop doing it but its like really hard not to react to it.” She just hated that the good things that Klaus was actually doing in the community weren’t talked about too. Was she the only one seeing any kind of change in him? Because she had and maybe it wasn’t exactly to the degree some people wanted but she noticed all of it. And while she didn’t exactly want Klaus to change, she’d fallen in love with who he was, she didn’t exactly mind the whole art center thing. Or the hunts. Or the taking care of his little brother part.

But she’d seen flickers of good in the Hybrid for a long time so maybe it wasn’t too surprising that she noticed them more than others did. It didn’t blot out all of the horrible things he’d done or the way he still treated some people but even that wasn’t universal. Caroline thought he was an idiot in regard to that for a number of reasons, but she couldn’t discount that he seemed to treat little Bo or Jesse or even big Bo and some select others with respect and talked to them just fine.

It all just made her head hurt. “Maybe it has to do with time. I don’t know.” She probably would never really comprehend why things went the way they did with the double standards. “I’m just tired of it and I know it’ll always be a thing but you know he watched me die three times and he didn’t do what he’d done that first time, last year when I did. He kind of ruined a few rooms but...that’s growth.”

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-10 12:06 am UTC (link)
Kol knew where she was coming from, about needing not to react so much when things were said, it was a problem for him as well, always had been really. But he also knew how hard it was to keep something so natural at bay. "Yeah, I know what you mean. I've always been really...reactive. It's really hard not to be, especially when it's things being said about people you care about." He was pretty explosive when it came to his family. Or Crowley and Anna.

"Maybe we should bring it up. Try to point out the good things he's done without being too obvious?" The idea was hardly flawless, but it was the best Kol had at this point. He was only barely beginning to really try to let go of his own preconceived conceptions of Nik based on past actions, so he couldn't completely hold it against anyone else doing the same thing. Even if it was stupid. Especially the ones that didn't have reasons to have anything against him. Those would be the comments that bothered him the most. and he felt it was the same (...)

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[info]itchtokill
2014-09-10 12:36 am UTC (link)
for Caroline as well.

Much as he hated admitting it, he knew that time did actor into so many things. And this, it was probably one of them. Loki had been here for years, so naturally they were quicker to flock to his defense, right? "Maybe it's the fact that Nik doesn't regret anything he's done. or what he will do, because he accepts anything that he ever has done or ever will do is exactly what he needed to do at the time to get what he wanted."

"No, you're right," she had a point. He was even more helpless in this situation than he had been during the explosion at the complex and Nik had kept himself contained, hadn't outwardly lash out at anyone in Lawrence for Caroline's televised deaths. "he managed it. He dealt with it. He waited it out." But would other people see it that way? He wasn't sure there was anything they could do about that.

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