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Bruce Banner. ([info]doctorbanner) wrote in [info]thedoorway,
@ 2015-02-08 16:07:00

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Entry tags:!network post, azari, bruce banner (mcu), helena g wells, henry jekyll / edward hyde, jennifer takeda / hazmat (616), pepper potts / rescue (animated), sam wilson / falcon (mcu)

Today's so-old-it's-new-again lesson in the fundamental principles of science: correlation does not imply causation. Rotting meat doesn't spontaneously generate maggots. Rising ice cream sales don't cause violent crime. Vaccines don't cause autism. Genetically modified crops don't cause allergies.

And the arrival of a large community of displaced and, admittedly, often rather unusual individuals does not cause the arrival of violent giants of mysterious origin.

Some of us came here on bikes.


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[info]hazmatup
2015-02-08 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Ice cream shortages cause violent crime.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 09:44 pm UTC (link)
I'm willing to say they might cause violent crimes.

I might even be willing to say you have personal knowledge of a few of them.

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[info]hazmatup
2015-02-08 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Well that's rude. I'm a law abiding citizen.

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(no subject) - [info]doctorbanner, 2015-02-08 10:20 pm UTC
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[info]jekyll_hyde
2015-02-08 09:52 pm UTC (link)
I am perhaps a slight argument against the violent giants statement, though by and large it holds true.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 09:58 pm UTC (link)
Right, no one said it could never involve causation. You will occasionally get a violent giant or two to support any given theory regarding violent giants. The danger is in drawing unsupported conclusions.

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[info]jekyll_hyde
2015-02-08 10:04 pm UTC (link)
And one violent giant against a dearth of other violent giants among the refugees is a very shaky foundation for any theory. Though Edward is better described as a violent giant in potentia since he is quite capable of not being violent.

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[info]changetherules
2015-02-08 10:05 pm UTC (link)
How can these people not be grateful to have vaccinations against what used to kill?

And what sort of bike can hold a violent giant of mysterious origin? It can't be a unicycle.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 10:19 pm UTC (link)
You'll have to ask a psychologist that one, I'm afraid. I don't have a clue.

But as regards violent giants (or, as we're more accurately describing them now, violent giants in potentia) on bikes, I found a motorcycle perfectly suitable.

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[info]changetherules
2015-02-08 10:29 pm UTC (link)
Surely there's one somewhere in this tower, with our diversity of residents. Perhaps if those "anti-vaccination" people had actually lived with such diseases, they could appreciate the development.

Now, don't be silly. You mean gigans violentus in potentia.


[OOC: Pretend the Latin is accurate if it isn't-- I only did 1 year but Helena is fluent]

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(no subject) - [info]doctorbanner, 2015-02-08 10:34 pm UTC
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[info]jailhouserocker
2015-02-08 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Seconding, I think the ice cream and crime things' solid.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 10:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm not denying that ice cream can, in certain circumstances, be the motivating factor in individual acts of violence. That would be to fly in the face of logic and human nature.

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[info]jailhouserocker
2015-02-08 10:27 pm UTC (link)
I heard Oswald was paid in Rocky Road

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(no subject) - [info]doctorbanner, 2015-02-08 10:32 pm UTC
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[info]hundredtexts
2015-02-08 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Unusual, yes, but with hearts of gold.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 11:07 pm UTC (link)
The cure for broad, unsupported assertions isn't more broad, unsupported assertions.

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[info]hundredtexts
2015-02-08 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Mine has a more positive spin on it though.

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[info]wallofweird
2015-02-08 11:14 pm UTC (link)
Well said.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 11:20 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. Sadly, the bar was not set high.

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[info]neversaidpilot
2015-02-08 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Or wings. But I digress.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 11:21 pm UTC (link)
You're not in the violent giant club; we're not counting you as a data point.

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[info]neversaidpilot
2015-02-08 11:23 pm UTC (link)
It's possible for others!

In all seriousness, fear is an extremely powerful brainwashing drug. All it takes is one person to say something, even if -- using one of your examples -- someone comes out and says "yeah all that stuff I said before was made up".

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(no subject) - [info]doctorbanner, 2015-02-08 11:28 pm UTC

[info]featherington
2015-02-08 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Like Helena, I am caught wondering how these people who are against vaccination can't be thankful that generally, these diseases are no longer a threat -- or shouldn't be. I must wonder if any of these people truly understand just how devastating they are, how horrible they are to watch as they take away the young and the old.

The inoculation for smallpox was not unheard of when I was a child, and my father decreed that myself and my sisters would have the procedure -- he would be pleased, I believe, to know that so many other diseases are also able to be eradicated.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-08 11:35 pm UTC (link)
I tend to think the culprit is the belief that you're special, as much as it is ignorance. But I could probably be called jaded.

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[info]featherington
2015-02-09 01:40 am UTC (link)
I understand. Surrounded by such unreasonableness, it would be no wonder if you were jaded.

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[info]kibwana
2015-02-09 02:21 am UTC (link)
Even if we walked through the same door, we didn't ask them. We all know people we'd rather invite.

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[info]doctorbanner
2015-02-09 02:27 am UTC (link)
I keep waiting for Professor Farnsworth, and he never comes.

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