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Det. Gavin Reed ([info]lefton) wrote in [info]somerealityweb,
@ 2019-11-24 08:20:00

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I've been sitting in my 'bedroom' pretty much since I got here, trying to suss out what the ever-loving-FUCK is going on and I've got nothing but a grumbling stomach and a raging headache outta it. Is there like a pamphlet I missed?

I'll take that, a jam-filled Pączki, and a large coffee, thanks.



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[info]lefton
2019-11-24 10:50 pm UTC (link)
Hey, if people didn't ask questions and push for clarifications we'd still be sitting in caves and eating anything to slow to get out of reach. So don't worry about it. Ask away.

Anyway, it's pretty clear by now that this city is filled with people that hail from places different, vastly or otherwise, than my own and lemme tell you, that shit is pretty fucking wild. But I've read and watched enough scifi to be pretty chill with, like, aliens and gifted individuals. However, I get less chill in regards to artificial intelligence and fully cybernetic organisms.

It all hinges on the fact that these things are just that: artificial.

Do I think that androids, where I come from suddenly, gained sentience and experience feeling and have enough knowledge to know what suffering is? Sure. It's a learned response. Programable, qualifiable, and in some cases quantifiable, but all more mimicry than actual authenticity.

But I could push that a little further and even go so far as to call them closer to animals because I've come to believe that there's enough of something in them to be at least treated humanely but I'm not going to give, say, a dog the right to vote so why would I give a cybernetic being such a right?

I'm not saying androids are animals, they're too well made and finely programmed for that outside of the actual android animals made to replace the dwindling or outright extinct ones, but, to me, they're not sapient. I just don't think there's anything up there besides ones and zeroes, and probabilities being measured and weighed in order to output the most likely response; two plus two equals four, the sky is blue because blue light is scattered more than the other colors through the atmosphere, but ask them to create something purely from imagination and you'll end up with either nothing or something flat, lifeless.

You can teach an android to paint, to perform musical numbers for an audience, to sing, to dance, or any other number of things that most would look and and confuse it for something only thinking beings could do but you compare it to a human or even an animal that's been taught the same and almost instantly you can tell which were produce or performed by the machine and which were not.

So my opinions are pretty firmly in the camp of android are manufactured for mimicry to ease the uncanny valley effect but ultimately are companionable convenience at best and disposable commodities at worse.

Am I wrong and those androids back home are actually a new intelligent species comparable, emotionally at least, to humans? I don't know. Thus far I haven't seen anything to distinguish them from their intended purposes. And no, crying crocodile tears and expressing fear isn't a good indicator of thinking intelligence, just sentience.

There might even be a good chance I'm confused about the subject matter at hand and am making a lot of assumptions with bad knowledge. Again, I don't think so but I'm absolutely no expert on anything that makes up these arguments or differences. I'm just an overly opinioned asshole with a distinct dislike for walking, talking toasters. and still waiting to find out if I should fucking care.

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