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The antagonism between Severus and Harry - intended or not?

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Several different lines of argument are used to explain why Severus is behaving in ways that Harry takes as hostile. One is that Severus had to act this way to maintain his cover as Death Eater: That when Voldemort returned Severus could point to his treatment of Harry as evidence that he remained a true DE and was never influenced by Dumbledore's agenda (and this would be supported by the testament of sons of DEs in his class if needed). A different argument is that Severus has strict and demanding standards (both academic and behavioral) as a teacher and Harry repeatedly fails those, thus bringing upon himself sarcasm, wrath, loss of points and detentions, as the case may be. And of course the argument more common among non-fans of Severus, that from the moment Severus saw the physical resemblance between Harry and his father Severus started taking on Harry his unreconciled enmity towards James (whether consciously or unconsciously).

This relationship becomes mutually hostile and results in Harry and his friends mistrusting Severus time and again - when they thought he was cursing Harry's broom and trying to steal the Philosophers' Stone, in the Shrieking Shack in POA, when they went to the Ministry in OOTP despite having already delivered him what should have been a sufficient warning to the Order and when Harry suspects Severus is a party to Draco's plot in HBP (well, he was in a way, but not how Harry expected). Severus' outburst in the Shrieking Shack ("... I have just saved your neck; you should be thanking me on bended knee!...") shows that Severus was offended by this state of affairs, he really expected to be trusted by Harry.

If Severus' behavior was strategic, intending to act the DE part - why would he expect Harry to trust him? Or is it that since their relationship already had a hostile start (whether because of Harry's conduct as a student or because of Severus' unsettled account with James) Severus decided to use it as part of his justification to Voldemort and the DEs (as we see him do with Bellatrix in HBP)? Did Severus expect Harry, perhaps with the aid of more trusted authority figures such as Minerva or Albus, to see the protection beyond the wrath and snark?

How does Albus fit in? In the early books he contributes to the distrust between the two - in PS he says Severus saved Harry so he could hate James' memory in peace, in POA he blames Severus for the need to make a daring rescue of Sirius. But later Albus reassures Harry that Severus was never suspected with any Dark activity since the first war (GOF), tells him how Severus warned the Order and searched for Harry and his friends in the forest, refrains from mentioning Severus' part in the matter of the prophecy until Harry learns of it himself (OOTP vs HBP) and tells Harry again and again that he trusts Professor Snape (HBP). Yet in OOTP he also says he expected Severus to have gotten over the past enough to teach Harry Occlumency successfully. So did Albus initially think he was supporting Severus' cover story but changed gears when he saw things were going badly? Or was he deliberately preventing the reconciliation of undesired hostility because it served his own plots?
  • And of course the argument more common among non-fans of Severus, that from the moment Severus saw the physical resemblance between Harry and his father Severus started taking on Harry his unreconciled enmity towards James (whether consciously or unconsciously).

    Heh. What does it say about me that I am a fan of Severus, and this is still (mostly) my theory?

    From everything we've seen of Severus, he's emotionally 17-20 years old. He has spit-flinging tantrums at 13-year-olds, he stops midflight to rebut an accusation that he's a coward, he torments Sirius and breaks Lupin's secrecy in petty revenge. I love the man, but I acknowledge his flaws. (They make him far more interesting than straightforward-thinking, generic-emotional-angst teenage Harry! They're why I love him, not something I try to overlook or reason away.)

    If he hasn't let up his hatred of Sirius and Lupin, I doubt he managed to forgive James, who (was part of) set him up and then wangled a debt from it (by Severus's view). That Harry -- clueless about anything magical and completely unaware of his parents' importance to Severus, in antithetical ways -- looks like James would doubtless spur his antipathy, and since Harry (due to pure coincidence, at least in part, since Severus's glance seems to activate his scar at their first meeting) dislikes him it's easy for him to continue in the same Potter-hating rut.

    • Hey, Severus only spits once in canon, when he is nearly knocked off a broom by Harry.

      And he only exposed Remus after Remus nearly ate students because Remus couldn't be bothered to take his potion before sitting to watch the map (when he was expecting trouble around sunset). He could have exposed Remus much earlier (the same way he did in the end), but instead he just gave the kids information that could help them save themselves. The childish one among these two is Remus, who refuses to take his potion in front of Severus just to keep Severus on edge (which gets worse knowing their history).
    • continuing...

      A different argument is that Severus has strict and demanding standards (both academic and behavioral) as a teacher and Harry repeatedly fails those,

      This is the other, say, third of my personal headcanon, providing that one substitutes "pertaining to Lily" for "academic and behavioural". Lily was the only (or one of very few, anyway) person who saw past Severus's exterior and upbringing, and he was deeply attached to her; he seems to have stopped developing, emotionally, at her death, and all the schoolday grudges he carried when he was with her are still active in him now, whereas Lupin seems to have grown up and moved past them. (Sirus, due to Azkaban, has also been mentally frozen at a younger age than his chronological one -- something JKR seems to like doing/dealing with...)

      Harry is the only thing left of Lily... and Harry comes across as a complete copy of James: not only in physical appearance, but he's also shallow/never looks past people's surfaces, unstudious, judgmental, and with a seemingly inborn dislike of Severus (since Severus cannot know that their eyes met just as Harry's scar started to hurt).

      Dumbledore probably hasn't been giving Severus details of how Harry's grown up (since "Hey, Severus; the kid's managed to blow up his visiting abusive aunt today; the other one's carrying on same as usual" doesn't make you look like somebody who can offer redemption), so he has no conception of Harry's potential similarities; he has only that initial impression, and the way Harry behaves toward him -- which is influenced by both Harry's scar-pain and by Dumbledore setting Snape up to look like an ungrateful git ("your father saved his life").

      And once Severus decides that he's disliked, he's not going to exert himself to become popular; not only would that be, in his view, acting like the Enemy (he repeatedly accuses Harry of seeking fame, and James et al were certainly not averse to showing off to large crowds -- "who wants to see me take off Snape's pants?"); it would also be setting himself up for rejection, and Severus HATES losing his dignity ("I AM NOT A COWARD!", the fury he unleashes when Sirius eludes him). He's not going to hand himself over to Potter Jr. when all the evidence suggests that rejection is what he's going to get. (A rejection he did NOT get from Lily until he'd done something to deserve it -- hence Harry has failed the litmus test in Snape's eyes.)
    • reassessing

      (Anonymous)
      "what does it say about me"

      Possibly that you haven't reassessed all the old information in light of the new?

      The reason we originally thought Snape hated Harry for being like James is that Dumbledore said so at the end of PS. But we now know that his comments then were both untrue (The motive was Lily, not James, and Snape was so far from considering himself indebted that it didn't even come up in his post-prophecy return to Dumbledore) and made in almost complete ignorance of the circumstances (the Cloak, the Map, the Animagi transformations and motive, even perhaps the bullying ... or one would like to be able to think that last was ignorance and not callousness). And Dumbledore's not a reliable speaker at any time.

      What evidence is there in the *narration* or in Snape's own actions that the loathing was about James? It's a feasible explanation, but it's not that well-supported. Snape doesn't even mention James until PoA, and then only because he's trying to make Harry keep out of danger.

      Harry reminds him of his mistakes/guilt, not because he has James's face, but because he has Lily's (contemptuous) eyes. And that's enough to make him constantly angry and miserable around Harry.

      "spit-flinging tantrums at 13-year-olds"

      If you mean in the hospital wing after the Shack, he was probably still suffering the after-effects of a moderate concussion. (Moderate = between mild and severe.) One common side-effect is emotional lability. And he was also greatly distressed at the escape of someone he thought had murdered Lily and was still trying to murder Harry.

      "he stops midflight to rebut an accusation that he's a coward"

      No, he doesn't. In the movie, yes, but not in the book. He stopped running when Harry shot off his first Stupefy, and turned to duel Harry to allow Draco to escape. He doesn't *stop* when Harry calls him a coward; he shoots a minor hex that sends Harry tumbling backwards, gets attacked by Buckbeak and starts running again.

      "he torments Sirius"

      No, he replies in kind when Sirius torments *him*. The few times we see them together, it is Sirius who both initiates and escalates hostilities.

      "breaks Lupin's secrecy in petty revenge."

      So Lupin implies. But nobody ever appreciates a whistleblower, especially the exposed wrongdoers (and that's what Lupin is).

      That night, Snape heard Lupin confess to wilful endangerment of the entire school community and neighbourhood, both as a teen and (by withholding vital security information) during the *entirety* of his employment as a teacher. He has seen Lupin's disregard for the safety of others repeatedly demonstrated, first by his failure to collect his Wolfsbane, then by his failure to separate himself from the children despite being reminded of the danger, then by his negligence/carelessness wrt injured-Snape. And he has seen Dumbledore protect the criminal werewolf from justice. To keep the students safe from Lupin, who has shown himself to be a danger to all, what alternative to exposure is there?

      "doubt he managed to forgive"

      Snape and Harry are the *only* characters in canon that ever return good for evil to past enemies. Snape warns Dumbledore in OotP that Umbridge is after Sirius and tries to save Lupin's life in DH, although they have remained entirely careless of his life and limb as adults.

      Yes, Lupin too; he left a "lifeless"-looking Snape unconscious in the Shack for the better part of an hour without even checking he was alive until they left it, and then gave only the most cursory check (pulse only) and no treatment. Without checking for neck or spinal injury, he then lifted him with a head-lolling Mobilicorpus and let someone who'd once tried to kill him (and still didn't regret it) transport him unsupported and unstabilised down a narrow passage, bumping his head repeatedly against the ceiling.

      "wangled a debt from it (by Severus's view)"

      No. It's Dumbledore who suggests it is a debt. Snape sees the incident as a trap set by James. He says so to both Lily and Harry, and even when Voldemort targets the Potters on his information, it's *Lily* Snape's concerned about; there's no indication either that he's concerned about his supposed debt to James or that Dumbledore expects him to be.

      duj

      • Re: reassessing

        "what does it say about me"

        Possibly that you haven't reassessed all the old information in light of the new?


        Quite possible, actually -- I've spent the last year residing in a different state from my copies of the books! (Incredibly frustrating.) I'm definitely looking forward to a leisurely re-read as soon as we're all together in the same city again, and things may well fall into different patterns for me then... I think I may have to take notes wherever Snape is mentioned. :D
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