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Tweak says, "is it supposed to do that?"

jelly_ace (jelly_ace) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-06 21:11:00

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char: batman/bruce wayne, char: king arthur, char: queen guinevere, char: superman/clark kent, char: vixen/mari jiwe mccabe, creator: adam beechen, title: justice league unlimited

Batman does Camelot

From JLU #9. The Shining Knight asked the JLU to help him protect Camelot from Morgaine Le Faye. King Arthur and Queen Guinevere head the welcoming committee for the heroes.

Yes, Bats, you're so sexy even the legendary Queen Guinevere is hitting on you.

In front of her husband.

And the JLU.

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strannik01
2009-09-07 04:20 pm UTC (link)

The difference between canon sue characters like Eragon and characters like Batman (who often get accused of being canon sues) is that:

a) Batman is allowed to have genuine flaws and failures
b) Batman's victories are earned rather then handed on a silver platter because the writers can't bear to see him challenged in any way.
c) Other heroic characters are allowed to second-guess and question his actions without being vilified for it.

I said it elsewhere and it bears reiterating - just because a character is very competent doesn't mean he or she is a sue (or stu)

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cleome45
2009-09-07 04:34 pm UTC (link)

But the flaws are supposed to be quickly excused, and the failures rarely seem to be genuine. (a)

I don't know what "challenge" would mean in a context where we know that the protagonist always wins in the end. However, he does seem to have superhuman qualities despite the constant assertion that of course he always "earns" a victory because he doesn't have superpowers-- unlike most of his peers. (b)

Maybe they don't get vilified. Much. But at the end of the day, you know it's going to turn out that Batman Is Right, and that whoever questioned him will probably have to admit this. Oh, and feel this deep bond with him, however reluctant. (c)

Fine. Maybe it's a different catch-all/archetype than "Sue/Stu." But for me, it comes closest to encapsulating the annoyance I feel just about every time I encounter the character in scenes like the one above. "Oh, tall stranger. I already want you and I can't even see your face!" Geez. Overkill, thy name is Batman.

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