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Tweak says, "He had a certain naive charm"

blake_reitz (blake_reitz) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-30 18:38:00

Entry tags:

char: adolf hitler, char: invisible woman/susan storm, char: j. jonah jameson jr., char: nick fury, char: white queen/emma frost, creator: john byrne, publisher: crossgen, publisher: marvel comics, title: fantastic four

Bits from Sinister Spider-Man, Dark X-Men, Bright and Light Marvel Adventures, and some Hitler.
Just some a few random scans, some recent, some older.

First, from this week's Sinister Spider-Man, the Secret Origin of J. Jonah Jameson's 'stash!

BONUS: That man...was Hitler.

Over in Dark X-Men (that team did not last very long), Emma digs through Namor's subconscious.

He's always been a big fan...of lawyers.

In the Marvel Adventures universe, things are calm enough that Blond Phantom and Hawkeye can check out an art gallery.

That painting really speaks to me. I want a full size poster of it, actually.

An oldie, but a goodie, from Crossgen's The Crossovers.

I might have to post some more of that (sadly short-lived) series.

Last thing: I saw Inglorious Bastards (or however they misspell it) last week, really enjoyed it. Made me think of an issue of 80's Fantastic Four though. The context?

There were some weird time/space problems in the last few issues, and now some of the FF and Nick Fury have ended up in WWII (again). Fury decides to go kill Hitler, everyone else tries to stop him, he leaves anyway, gets captured and interrogated by the Furher and his lackies, until Sue comes to bust him out.

Nick Fury: No friend of causality.

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	thanekos 2009-08-31 12:10 am UTC (link)
	yeah, kill Hitler to change history. let's, you know, just forget that in 616, the man's got Arnim " So I pioneered cloning and making perfect copies of people's minds " Zola working for him. (Reply to this)

	volksjager 2009-08-31 12:11 am UTC (link)
	I hated that FF story Sue should totally be like " well my husband is Reed Richards and every time we have tried it you get the old "divergent reality and don't change a damned thing..." (Reply to this) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-08-31 12:38 am UTC (link)
	True. I mean, I could have seen her trying to talk down Nick Fury from killing Hitler because he needed to move on or some nonsense, but really? Sometimes you've just got to kill Hitler. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2009-08-31 12:12 am UTC (link)
	This reallly makes me wonder why Mark Miller had to "hip" the Ultimate Nick Fury up. (Reply to this)

	mykie1234 2009-08-31 12:26 am UTC (link)
	We really need more Crossgen on here. They did some really great stuff despite their flawed business model. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2009-08-31 12:31 am UTC (link)
	I'm betting Namor is less interested in lawyers than it seems at first glance. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-08-31 12:36 am UTC (link)
	Next panel: (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	shanejayell 2009-08-31 03:55 am UTC (link)
	LOL Oh, that's BAD. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	seriousfic 2009-08-31 05:32 am UTC (link)
	Would Emma Frost really be that flustered by someone's sexual fantasy? Unless Namor is really kinky... come to think of it, he was raised by merpeople, so yeah, he's probably dreaming of Sue throwing out eggs and him fertilizing them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

ex_stig213
2009-08-31 07:36 am UTC (link)

You think that's the extent of freaky fish-sex? It's just as likely he's imagining permanently bonding to her nervous system after mating, then almost all of his organs except the sexual and perceptual ones dropping off, becoming a forever-devoted living tumour.

Oh, yes. See Also the Deep-Sea Anglerfish, a creature so sexually dimorphic that scientists initially mistook the males for a different species.

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	blake_reitz 2009-08-31 01:09 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, she mentions in the next panel that she's flustered because she can't open the door. Most men would let her, and then act all embarrassed, but Namor is a guy with Willpower. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	autumn_lily 2009-09-02 03:36 am UTC (link)
	And a really busy fantasy life... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	freezer818 2009-08-31 12:59 am UTC (link)
	You'd think someone as politically and historically aware as Fury would know that taking out Hitler would open the possibility of someone worse and/or more stable taking over (i.e. It's more likely to make things worse than better). (Reply to this)

	yaseen101 2009-08-31 01:02 am UTC (link)
	I'm pretty sure that the door labeled 'SUE' stands for Namor's secret fantasies with Sue Storm. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-08-31 02:47 am UTC (link)
	Lies! Namor of Hoboken has always been a longtime fan of the litigative system! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	toasty_fresh 2009-08-31 02:56 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that's the joke . . . (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-08-31 08:32 am UTC (link)
	Actually with the other doors being Attack and Negotiate, I took the word Sue as in 'the legal action' and I thought that was suppoused to be the impression the writer was trying to give but it was really meant to be about Sue Storm. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	okkult3000 2009-08-31 06:04 am UTC (link)
	http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-08-31 08:33 am UTC (link)
	Actually with the other doors being Attack and Negotiate, I took the word Sue as in 'the legal action' and I thought that was suppoused to be the impression the writer was trying to give but it was really meant to be about Sue Storm. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	long_silence 2009-08-31 01:34 am UTC (link)
	I thought the Dark X-men were getting their own miniseries in November. There's still four members on that team afterall. (Reply to this)

	ashtoreth 2009-08-31 02:49 am UTC (link)
	Re: J.J.J. His moustache iz pasted on yay? (Reply to this)

	proteus_lives 2009-08-31 04:57 am UTC (link)
	If any man can change history it's Nick Fucking Fury! Fin Fang Foom is pop art! (Reply to this)

	seriousfic 2009-08-31 05:31 am UTC (link)
	Sue, honey, Reed saved Galactus's life. I don't really think he's the best judge when it comes to the lives of mass murderers. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bariman1987 2009-08-31 05:36 am UTC (link)
	Galactus is a fundamental force of the universe. He has to exist, or reality starts falling apart. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seriousfic 2009-08-31 05:39 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, but Reed's initial reasoning was "just cuz!" Galactus being a fundamental force was a retcon because, I assume, everyone called bullshit on the no-kill policy extending to someone who ate planets. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-08-31 06:05 am UTC (link)
	Bah, I was hoping for some MASM Chat & Emma... (Reply to this)

	magus_69 2009-08-31 06:33 am UTC (link)
	I'd ask why Nick is in his underwear... but I don't care because Nick is in his underwear. Does that make me a total perv? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-08-31 01:07 pm UTC (link)
	How better to kill Hitler, but in one's underwear? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lbd_nytetrayn 2009-09-01 05:55 am UTC (link)
	...but why Hitler would be in one's underwear, I'll never know. Eh, doesn't quite work the same. --LBD "Nytetrayn" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	autumn_lily 2009-09-02 03:39 am UTC (link)
	'I was thinking the same thing' to the first part, and 'maybe' to the second...but then again that'd make me one too... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thandrak 2009-08-31 06:59 am UTC (link)
	A: Man, I loved the Crossovers. Great series. Narnia meats X-Files meets Buffy meets bad 90s superheroes. B: Now, here I was thinking 'Oh, must be a reference to Byrne and Oracle Corp.' No. No, it was Sue. (Reply to this)

	wyatt1048 2009-08-31 09:30 am UTC (link)
	Back in the war? I tore a man's eyebrow off with my teeth. I still wear it! Is it just me, or is there a definite Warren Ellis feel to that phrase? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-08-31 01:06 pm UTC (link)
	You know, a little bit. And I can't tell you how much I would read a Warren Ellis "Adventures of J. Jonah Jameson" comic. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	iwfan53 2009-09-28 12:49 am UTC (link)
	Well we know he can write great editors, remember Mr. "I'm going to take an entire pillowcase full of drugs and then sleep with a great many prostitutes, some of whome I may have once been married to..." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	janegray 2009-08-31 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	Ok, I actually laughed out loud at the Sue one. (Reply to this)

salad_barbarian
2009-09-01 10:29 am UTC (link)

"Hitler was the worst villain of them all"

Really? In the entire Marvel universe that includes beings like Galactus and Thanatos and many others who have killed billions, Hitler is the worst? And what of Mephisto? Hell even by real world standards Hitler takes a backseat to Stalin, and the two of them combined didn't kill as many as Mao.

What could he have possibly done in the MU that could make him the worst?

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	valtyr.dreamwidth.org 2009-09-01 05:26 pm UTC (link)
	Well, this is Nick's opinion, and given he fought in WWII we can probably admit he's biased. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

salad_barbarian
2009-09-01 09:05 pm UTC (link)

But Sue is the one saying it. And the more I think about it I start to wonder, if there are supervillains in the party is Hitler even the worst Nazi? I don't remember how much involvement people like the Red Skull and others had in the MUs Holocaust but the fact that they are still killing people and still trying to take over the world makes me think they might be more evil.

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