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cyberghostface (cyberghostface) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-09 15:26:00

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char: scarlet spider/ben reilly, creator: j.m. dematteis, creator: john romita jr., creator: marc guggenheim, title: amazing spider-man

Amazing Spider-Man Annual #36: What's wrong with Pete's memories?

For the record, I can't take credit for noticing this--Zarius on the SpidermanCrawlSpace messageboard found it.

In the latest ASM Annual, there's a scene where some new character wants revenge on 'Ben Reilly' for killing his family. Ben's name brings back memories to Pete, and we get this montage of poorly scanned panels and covers from the Clone Saga. Here's one of them:

Here's the source, from Spider-Man: The Lost Years #2...

So in other words...when Pete thinks he's remembering him and MJ, he's in fact remembering Ben Reilly and Janine.

Hardly the end of the world, but at the same time, I don't see how anyone could look at the original issue (and they had to to get the pic) and think that they're Pete and MJ. Unless they just skimmed through all the Clone Saga issues and just pasted on the pictures that seemed appropriate, which is what they were probably doing.

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	blake_reitz 2009-07-09 08:20 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe current Pete is Ben, put in his place as some sort of demonic catch in his bargain with the devil? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-07-09 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	............. Good lord. That makes SENSE. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-07-10 04:42 am UTC (link)
	I was just being silly, but now I can't make it not make sense! Noooo! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	schala_kid 2009-07-09 08:36 pm UTC (link)
	That's actually something I would accept. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	neuhallidae 2009-07-09 08:39 pm UTC (link)
	Holy crap. I could totally buy that. (Reply to this) (Parent)

kitty_tc_69
2009-07-09 08:45 pm UTC (link)

Anything that turns OMD/BND into a swerve, I'm all for it. I'll even take back all the nasty things I've thought and said about the current marvel regime.

Because if this was all a plot to fool us "smart marks" and get genuine heat from us, to set up the payoff of setting everything right... then it's more than just ok. It's fucking brilliant. Genius, even.

I'm still not ready to get my hopes up, though.

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vignettelante
2009-07-09 09:12 pm UTC (link)

Oh, no, wait, I get it!

Quesada erased his own memories to get Loeb--who was closing in on him--off his back, and after a complicated plot including OMD and making Tony a jerk, which gets Quesada in Loeb's good graces, will finally touch the first issue of Ultimate Spider-Man, restoring his true memories and personality, putting him in position to blacklist Loeb forever, and allowing him to create his ideal world where Squirrel Girl has her own series and no one gets cheaply brought back from the dead.

"Just as planned."

(I have no idea if this makes any sense, but Loeb was the first name that came to mind.)

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	ninjapeps 2009-07-09 11:26 pm UTC (link)
	"Just as planned." Joe Q is Light Yagami? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	timgueguen 2009-07-10 04:33 am UTC (link)
	Seems to me if he's any manga character it's more likely to be Tatewaki Kuno. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	marsdejahthoris 2009-07-10 06:11 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you, I just snorted a pretzel shard... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	scottyquick 2009-07-09 09:02 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, what did we say about coming up with good ideas? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-07-10 04:39 am UTC (link)
	sign...I'll go sit in the corner. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	moneyless_jew 2009-07-09 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	I don't get it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-09 10:48 pm UTC (link)
	Consider: for a time, Marvel was trying to get the audience to believe that the "real" Peter Parker was Ben Reilly, and that the Pete we'd been reading about since at least 1976 (I think) was really the clone. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-07-09 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	It's an amusing thought, but most likely they were just being sloppy and indifferent as usual. "Redhead? Vaguely-Peter looking thing? Slap it in there!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-07-10 04:41 am UTC (link)
	Sad, but probably true. The firs time I scanned over it, I even mistook the "HEY" for "MJ!" But that's a pretty confusing font. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	taggerung301 2009-07-09 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	that would be some brilliant writing (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-07-09 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	The hair is TOO BIG... (Reply to this)

	neuhallidae 2009-07-09 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	What the hell is up with Ben's shoes in that last panel? He looks like he's got Transformer feet. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-09 10:48 pm UTC (link)
	He's wearing boots. To keep out the cold. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-07-09 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	I've worn boots before, and they didn't look like they were blocks made of metal, even the ones with steel toes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-07-09 11:57 pm UTC (link)
	..Skiing boots? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-07-10 12:27 am UTC (link)
	Ooh, there's a thought. I guess if people'd wear Uggs, they'd wear skiing boots with no skis. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-07-10 12:30 am UTC (link)
	If they are a NUTTER. Those things hurt! But, Clone-of-Parker. Nutter, surely? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	heat16 2009-07-09 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	Does Ben look like a young Kelsey Grammar to anyone else? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-07-09 11:41 pm UTC (link)
	I was thinking Michael Bolton. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	captain_clown 2009-07-09 10:01 pm UTC (link)
	When I saw 'What's wrong with Pete's memories' I immediately thought of the whole pedo thing. Which I guess puts this into perspective. (Reply to this)

	sandoz_iscariot 2009-07-09 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	Hairrrrr. Yeah, my guess is lazy copy/pasting. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	felinephoenix 2009-07-10 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	He can´t be Spider-Man so he´s The Amazing Mullet-Man. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ar_feiniel_ 2009-07-10 06:54 am UTC (link)
	You know, I'm actually going to go out on a limb here and have some faith that Marvel didn't just skim nineties comics looking for Peter/MJ panels. Someone might be onto something here.... (Reply to this)

felinephoenix
2009-07-10 01:41 pm UTC (link)

Man, I miss Janine/Elizabeth. Even though I didn´t really care for the way she and Ben automatically fell in love here.

But awww, well there goes my hope that they were bringing her back on purpose. What? If ASM wanted to do an arc about the Reillys, why not have Pete discover more about his brother while Aunt May learns more about her family? Heck, you could even do an interesting reversal of the Clone Saga... if MC2´s anything to go by, Ben was going to be a father too (or already was depending on how old you think Darkdevil is), he just didn´t know it.

Ohhhhh wait I´m expecting new and interesting things from ASM. My bad.

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	ashtoreth 2009-07-12 07:17 am UTC (link)
	A perusal of the page in question seems to indicate it was a montage of Ben Reilly images. None of them were Peter Parker or were meant to be. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	cyberghostface 2009-07-12 03:58 pm UTC (link)
	So how does Ben walking with his girlfriend translate to upending Peter's life with MJ? Wasn't Ben more or less keeping to himself at this point? (Reply to this) (Parent)