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volksjager (volksjager) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-27 12:13:00

Current music:	Blood ponies " he spelled Yale with a 6 "
Entry tags:	char: moonstone/ms. marvel/karla sofen, char: tigra/greer grant, publisher: marvel comics, title: avengers the initiative, title: ms. marvel

evolution of the Ms. Marvel costume (or is it a uniform)

The classic from the 70's...

Moonstone gives her critique ...

This is a junetenah post :)

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	tacobob 2009-06-27 11:51 am UTC (link)
	It's not a very practical costume to wear when fighting evil. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 11:57 am UTC (link)
	The only other tme I can recall a female character complaining about a thong that cuts them in half was in John Byrnes "Nextmen". (Reply to this) (Parent)

	pensive1 2009-06-27 12:07 pm UTC (link)
	Actually, I think it would distract the opponent long enough for Carol to defeat them. I mean... midriff and all that leg... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	Have you ever worn a thong ? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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icon_uk
2009-06-27 03:38 pm UTC (link)

I'm not sure about practical being an issue, as I think it depends how invulnerable and immovable you are. Exposed diamond hard skin is still diamond hard so ANY clothing is more down to modesty than practicality. And the scarf is only a liability if someone grabbing it would have any impact on your inertia.

In the case of Moonstone, she is a flying brick and can become intangible to boot.

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	dr_hermes 2009-06-27 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Is that scarf any worse than a cape roughly the size of an opened parachute? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	rzerox21xx 2009-06-27 12:00 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, sucks that Bendis or anyone have showed any reunion or interaction between MJ and Carol considering they were good friends in the first series. what a waste of story potential. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-06-27 12:14 pm UTC (link)
	Blame Rogue. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	neuhallidae 2009-06-27 12:05 pm UTC (link)
	I just noticed this: Hey, Moonstone? Even if it is riding up, digging the wedgie out of the costume in front of a stand of photographers isn't the brightest thing in the world. Between that and the wardrobe malfunction Greer caused, you're going to be tabloid fetish fodder forever. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 12:12 pm UTC (link)
	Can a stolen sex tape be far off ???? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	just_mrasaki 2009-06-27 12:26 pm UTC (link)
	Reminds me of this macro that says, "SEXY ARMOR: It worked for the guys in 300, it'll work for us!" the companion macro goes: "SEXY ARMOR: The guys in 300 LOST, you stupid bitch." Poor Ms. Marvel, having to go around all day with swimsuit-riding-up syndrome. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 12:33 pm UTC (link)
	well the Spartans armour was all n their shields. Armour Limits mobility y. The best way to avoid injury is to avoid the ht in the first place ( some would say). A good rant on the subject is John Keagan's "face of Battle" it traces the history of the infantry solder through the ancient to the modern. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	aaron_bourque 2009-06-27 03:07 pm UTC (link)
	And as a companion piece: (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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aaron_bourque, 2009-06-28 12:47 am UTC

tahngarth
2009-06-27 01:38 pm UTC (link)

Well, from an in-universe perspective, Carol's original costume (In the first issue of her own series up there) was actually created by her subconscious mind to emulate a female Kree officer's uniform.

Okey, it's a long story. Originally the schtick with Ms. Marvel was that the psyche-magnetron which gave her her superpowers fractured her psyche into two distinct personalities. There was Carol, the down-to-earth, normal career woman and Ms. Marvel the Kree superheroine. Neither side had any idea they were the same person until a good while into the series' run.

(Heck, Carol's warrior persona had the short hairbob, while civilian Carol had long flowing hair. Kree shapeshifting, ladies and gentlemen)

Anyway, as soon as Carol's personalities started to integrate she also changed her costume, first to a full leotard version (eliminating the big tummy cut-out) and then to her black-with-thunderbolt suit.

So while the Kree are arguably the sexist ones here, Carol's not to blame since she was just emulating their dresscode.

Now, from a REAL WORLD perspective... there's not really any excuse except "It's comics" and "it was the 70's".

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	halloweenjack 2009-06-27 01:46 pm UTC (link)
	Chris Claremont is on record saying that, if he'd had his way, Carol's costume would have covered her from head to toe, since she was basically a melee fighter at that point. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	kitty_tc_69 2009-06-27 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	But she has invulnerable skin. What she wears makes no difference at all unless it's somehow tougher than her natural protection. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	ex_menagerie993 2009-06-27 03:21 pm UTC (link)
	I don't know, if I were entirely invulnerable and had that sort of body, I'd probably be wandering around with very little clothing too (unless I could still feel cold). (Reply to this)

	dr_hermes 2009-06-27 05:32 pm UTC (link)
	Ugly, stupid comics. So 1970s, so Marvel. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dr_hermes 2009-06-27 05:34 pm UTC (link)
	By "comics," I meant to say "costumes." Although, there's still some validity. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 05:47 pm UTC (link)
	I think gay men might disagree with you :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	psychop_rex 2009-06-28 12:21 am UTC (link)
	For the record, I don't think that one should count - he only wore it for a very short time, after all, the later miniseries notwithstanding. The classic Killraven outfit with the throwing stars is really pretty snazzy. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	psychop_rex 2009-06-28 12:23 am UTC (link)
	Let me guess - the bottom panel is just before Tigra takes advantage of Moonstone's distraction to escape somehow, right? I hope I'm right. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-06-28 10:11 am UTC (link)
	Yup she uses her claws to rip open the from of her costume and everything pops out. In the freny of papparzzi flash bulbs Triga splits. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	salamangkiero 2009-06-29 05:35 am UTC (link)
	For some reason, The original costume reminds me of Blondie...and that makes me go to the animated movie Rock and Rule, for some reason. (Reply to this)

	kali1967 2009-06-29 08:37 am UTC (link)
	Ya know, I'd actually like it if people did the evolutions of people's various costumes-half the time, I've never seen some of them before. Anyone feel like making a project out of it? (Reply to this)