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seawolf10 ([info]seawolf10) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-31 22:36:00

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Entry tags:char: bo "bibbo" bibbowski, char: cyclone/maxine hunkel, char: mr. bones, char: nuklon/atom smasher/al rothstein, char: stargirl/courtney whitmore, creator: jerry ordway, group: infinity inc., publisher: dc comics, title: justice society of america

JSA #27
So, it looks like Jerry Ordway's going to be doing at least one JSA arc (writing and art both, possibly -- definitely for this first issue) before Willingham takes over.

GOOD.

The mere beginnings of the plot that we see in this issue still appear to be of much higher quality than what Geoff Johns produced in his final throes on the title.

I'm just going to post the first 4 pages, because the rest are so intertwined that cherry-picking anything from them would require tons of explanation that I don't have time to write up.







So, I avoided Final Crisis as much as possible -- is this Global Peace Agency (presumably that's the word, given the acronym) a plot element that came out of that, or is it something Ordway just came up with for his JSA run?



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[info]thokstar
2009-05-31 09:54 pm UTC (link)
So, I avoided Final Crisis as much as possible -- is this Global Peace Agency (presumably that's the word, given the acronym) a plot element that came out of that, or is it something Ordway just came up with for his JSA run?

Yeah. It seems to be a kind of sort of replacement for Checkmate, for whatever reason Morrison thinks that is necessary. Theoretically, Final Crisis: Escape will explain more about it, but it's also doing the Prisoner thing.

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[info]seawolf10
2009-05-31 09:59 pm UTC (link)
A Morrison creation.

*huge sigh*

Oh, joy.

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[info]bluefall
2009-05-31 10:17 pm UTC (link)
for whatever reason Morrison thinks that is necessary

I can't speculate as to Morrison's reasoning, but "Checkmate" says to me, "spy agency with its own concerns, probably trying to do mostly the right thing with a certain amount of self-serving agenda and an MO fairly dependent on who's in charge," while "Global Peace Agency" sort of screams "hoshit it's Big Brother these guys will do HORRIBLE THINGS for YOUR OWN GOOD." The first is asking for a sensible, evenhanded treatment. The second is begging to become a boilerplate creepy, evil spider-in-the-shadows. You might have been able to get away with a cheerfully forthright statement of benevolence like putting "global peace" in your actual name back in the Silver Age, but in the modern age it's begging for trouble. So at a guess, Morrison was either trying for that Silver Age simplicity, or more likely, setting up for an oh-so-clever subversion.

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[info]thokstar
2009-05-31 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Wikipedia actually claims that the GPA dates back to the Kirby OMAC series, so it could also just be Morrison's Kirby fetish (and which also suggests the tone the group will take.)

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(no subject) - [info]volksjager, 2009-05-31 10:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-05-31 10:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-05-31 10:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_bourque, 2009-05-31 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-05-31 11:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_bourque, 2009-06-01 05:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabican, 2009-05-31 11:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-05-31 11:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rabican, 2009-06-01 12:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzene, 2009-06-01 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-06-01 05:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]volksjager, 2009-06-01 07:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-06-01 08:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_bourque, 2009-05-31 11:30 pm UTC

[info]foxhack
2009-05-31 09:59 pm UTC (link)
OH GOD

OH GOD

MOTHAFUCKIN' MR. BONES IS ALIVE FUCK YEAH!!!!!

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[info]foxhack
2009-05-31 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Also, haha, halo thar Mistar Bibbowski!

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[info]fungo_squiggly
2009-05-31 10:06 pm UTC (link)
Hah, I wondered if it was that same guy who I vaguely remembered befriending Superman.

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(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-06-01 06:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tacobob, 2009-06-01 10:33 am UTC
I feel the same.
[info]seawolf10
2009-05-31 10:03 pm UTC (link)
And he's kept his...unique...attitude.

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Re: I feel the same.
[info]icon_uk
2009-06-01 05:37 am UTC (link)
Apart from the rhyming...

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[info]volksjager
2009-05-31 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Ordway will do two issues. I noticed no Star Spangled kid on the Splash page ????

Where do you think they are going with the "Gobal Peace Agency" ?????

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[info]seawolf10
2009-05-31 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Only two? :-( Can you point me to your source?

As for the "Global Peace Agency" -- honestly, I have NO idea. I like the idea of having another intelligence agency out there to go with Checkmate and the DEO (assuming both got through Final Crisis, and I'm not sure they did), since that opens up more options for plots involving subterfuge and intrigue.

However, I'm not at all confident that most of DC's writers can write a really GOOD intrigue/subterfuge plot. Maybe Greg Rucka will use them in his Detective run? Gail Simone, Marc Andreyko (guy who wrote Manhunter) and Paul Dini would also be competent to do it, but I can't think of too many more who would.

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[info]volksjager
2009-05-31 10:32 pm UTC (link)
The new previews shows the first issue done by Williamson

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(no subject) - [info]seawolf10, 2009-06-01 08:04 am UTC

[info]xlineartx
2009-05-31 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Todd's gone evil again?

NO. >:(

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[info]pyrotwilight
2009-05-31 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Nopes. Actually tried saving the day but no one trusted him. He's still alive and not evil though.

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(no subject) - [info]lieut_kettch, 2009-05-31 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzene, 2009-06-01 04:25 am UTC

[info]seawolf10
2009-05-31 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Pyrotwilight is correct.

Todd's just getting treated with paranoid suspicion.

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(no subject) - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-06-01 06:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluefall, 2009-06-01 10:35 am UTC
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[info]scottyquick
2009-05-31 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Wait, they're paying attention to Todd in JSA?

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[info]seawolf10
2009-05-31 11:50 pm UTC (link)
In a paranoid sort of way, but yeah.

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[info]mullon
2009-05-31 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Yay for Bibbo and Director Bones appearence!

Did anything come out of Final Crisis?

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[info]khaosworks
2009-06-01 03:24 am UTC (link)
"Seems like twenty years ago, but it wasn't."

Yes, it was actually 26 years ago... God, I'm old.

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(Anonymous)
2009-06-01 06:18 am UTC (link)
I hate to say it because I really love the JSA but compared to the last season the writing on this issue was beyond heinous. Clunky and expository and godawful, it felt like something out of the slower, lamer parts of the Silver Age.

Reading this back-to-back with the newest Runaways and its breezy, effortless dialogue nearly gave me whiplash.

So I guess this is another Astonishing and I'm out until the next arc. : P

-twigcollins

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[info]buttler
2009-06-01 04:15 pm UTC (link)
Agreed. I find Ordway's writing workmanlike and old-school, but not actually interesting.

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[info]seawolf10
2009-06-01 04:30 pm UTC (link)
Eh, given Johns' tendency to suddenly revert into the utmost cliched crap after having a really intriguing buildup, I'll take a little clunky exposition any day. Ordway at least hasn't flopped on the mildly intriguing buildup he's giving us...yet.

Besides, if Ordway's only got two issues and not a whole arc like I originally thought, heavy exposition is going to kind of be a requirement.

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[info]daningram
2009-06-01 06:22 am UTC (link)
Glad someone is calling Al out on his bullshit. Shame it's not an actual team member and shame they're not forcing him to leave.

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[info]thandrak
2009-06-01 06:55 am UTC (link)
... You don't remember old Mr. Bones, do you? The rhyming crook?

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(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-06-01 08:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-06-01 11:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]daningram, 2009-06-01 12:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]daningram, 2009-06-01 08:29 am UTC
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[info]neotoma
2009-06-01 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Al keeps wearing that collar out in public -- *why* doesn't he get hit on by leather daddies?

I like the art. The faces in the background all have expressions on them, and the girls look both young and worried.

It's nice that Ordway remembered that Al and Todd are *friends* and have more history between them than either have with any other member of the JSA. If something is going wrong, Todd should be asking for Al.

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