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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-30 14:13:00

Entry tags:

char: brother voodoo/jericho drumm, char: daimon hellstrom, char: dr. strange/stephen strange, char: hood/parker robbins, char: power man/luke cage, creator: billy tan, creator: brian michael bendis, publisher: marvel comics, title: new avengers

New Avengers #53

This is from New Avengers #53, by Brian Michael Bendis and Billy Tan.

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	sherkahn 2009-05-30 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	This guy? the guy that made Deadpool break down and laugh, even though he was surrounded by hundreds of zombies? This guy? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	hybrid2 2009-05-30 01:32 pm UTC (link)
	you're thinking Black Talon. This one is a good guy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	hybrid2 2009-05-30 01:35 pm UTC (link)
	Brother Voodoo. dunnu how his name was mispell so badly. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	readeriif 2009-05-30 01:54 pm UTC (link)
	That's supposed to be an accent, I think. ... of course, I don't think I've ever seen him speak with one, but in the face of this portrayal of Dr Strange, I don't have the energy to pick at it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stig 2009-05-30 01:35 pm UTC (link)
	That was The Black Talon. I think you're confused because the recent Marvel Zombies 4 introduced a badass alternate Talon who also dressed in chicken parts. I find it odd that Jericho is now speaking in 'Street', but I haven't seem him much in other stuff. Him as Sorcerer Supreme would be quite nice, I think. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	...Although now that I think of it, the thing does smack of Obama-fever. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kitty_tc_69 2009-05-30 01:41 pm UTC (link)
	I think it's intended to sound Jamaican or Hatian, rather than "street". Could be wrong though. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Eh, maybe. I just hope he doesn't come off sounding like a Lenny Henry character. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-05-30 01:57 pm UTC (link)
	Why can he say "They" but not "Brother" and "the?" (Reply to this) (Thread)

	arilou_skiff 2009-05-30 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	Accents do not work that way. (a lot of the time anyway) you're dealing with a separate vocabulary, not simply a verbal tic. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tahngarth 2009-05-30 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	I'd just like to point out that Jericho Drumm is a university doctorate and has always spoken perfect English. Why turn his speech pattern stereotypical by now? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	taggerung301 2009-05-30 02:03 pm UTC (link)
	because Jamaican accents are awesome! :D and Marvel needs more Jamaican accents (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-05-30 02:04 pm UTC (link)
	Here, have some Jar-Jar Binks! ;) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	unknownscribler 2009-05-30 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	I tried doing the accent for a RPG game I was GMing set in Jamaica. Everyone -- and I mean everyone -- ended up speaking with a scottish accent instead. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-05-30 02:05 pm UTC (link)
	Aren't those quotation marks? I figured he was quoting something. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-05-30 02:07 pm UTC (link)
	I think those are apostrophes to show that he is abbreviating words. Like when you type y'see. Actually the first thing my eyes were drawn to were "Brudder Voodoo" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 02:52 pm UTC (link)
	Except, again, Bendis-brand fail for putting an apostrophe before 'da', which is simply an accented 'the'. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	foxhack 2009-05-30 02:22 pm UTC (link)
	Bendis, that's why! (Reply to this) (Parent)

aaron_bourque
2009-05-30 06:36 pm UTC (link)

~~Because previously it was an example of the whiteinization of other cultures!~~

Stop that.

No. And you can't make me.

No, seriously, stop that. This isn't a case of racism or reverse racism, this is just ignorance of characterization. Seriously. Quit it.

Nyaah, I can be a jerk if I want to be.

Okay, that's it. I'm pulling out the fan art. If I can't win an argument on the internet WITH MYSELF with FAN ART, I don't want to live.

Do. Your. Worst.

quit it

. . .

Yes?

. . . I'll be good.

That's what I thought.

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	ninjapeps 2009-05-30 08:41 pm UTC (link)
	is that Candle Ja... er... the guy from Freakazoid who kidnaps and ties up people who say his name? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-05-30 09:53 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. I would love for Freakazoid to somehow become canon in the DCU, just so things like this could happen. Also, WW/CJ battle of bondage. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ian_karkull 2009-05-30 02:00 pm UTC (link)
	I don't particularly care for how the story has been set up and the Bendisian dialogue ticks have been very grating (Hellstrom talks like a really bad 90's action movie) but on the whole, it's been surprisingly entertaining. Brother Voodoo -at least temporarily- being the New Sorceror Supreme is something I could get behind. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 02:07 pm UTC (link)
	'Specially as he's rocking those fantastic Supreme-duds. Although, again, I can't help feeling that there's another event taking place beneath the surface of Dark Reign, one called "Obama Fever". I'm all in favour of a Black Sorcerer Supreme...but why not five years ago, eh? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	drsevarius 2009-05-30 02:11 pm UTC (link)
	So black characters can't be used now without being accused of being Obama-fever? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	I'm more saying that it just seems oddly convenient that this should happen now rather than before we COULD accuse it of being Obama-fever. After all, Drumm has had the raw power and experience to take over the mantle before this - what factor other than sales and trying to keep on the media pulse could have made it happen now? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	drsevarius 2009-05-30 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	Because Strange didn't give up the mantle before? I don't see how Obama's popularity extends to other black characters. If you want to complain about he guest-stars in all the other comics, that's one thing. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_menagerie993 2009-05-31 02:50 am UTC (link)
	I know he's either lost it or given it up at least once or twice. Salome ended up with it for awhile in the 90's. (Reply to this) (Parent)

bruinsfan
2009-05-31 03:31 pm UTC (link)

After all, Drumm has had the raw power and experience to take over the mantle before this...

He has? When? I thought he was supposed to be an extremely minor practicioner of mysticism, probably not as capable as the goons Strange's usual enemies employ. I'll grant that he's a noble heroic figure with a long history (when he hasn't been treated as a joke), but I'd think that every other candidate we've been shown so far is his superior in terms of expertise and raw power.

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	stolisomancer 2009-05-30 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	I'd suggest it's a coincidence. Bendis grew up reading Marvel in a very specific era, and a lot of those characters are now seeing a revival in his work for the company. Because of that particular era, the mid-seventies, a lot of the characters also happen to be black; Marvel had a "blaxploitation" period just like movies did. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2009-05-30 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	I fully expect the literal Son of Satan to speak like a bad 90's action movie. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-05-30 02:47 pm UTC (link)
	It's by far the least irritating option of those I've seen. The Hood is an inalterably silly idea, and I am not one of the Doom fangirls. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-05-30 02:58 pm UTC (link)
	As a Doom neutral, I just think it'd be silly because there's only so many things you can do with it before he eventually gets bored with all that power. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cloot 2009-05-30 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	My god his hand! Fingers aren't supposed to bend like that! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	nonnyeve 2009-05-30 03:26 pm UTC (link)
	Upon reading this, I immediatly attempted to do the same hand position. And now I think I've sprained my fingers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	endis_ni 2009-05-30 04:02 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think that one bent finger is supposed to move so independently. And I'm now typing very gingerly. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	neuhallidae 2009-05-30 06:27 pm UTC (link)
	Just looking at it makes my fingers phantom-ache. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-05-30 06:38 pm UTC (link)
	I can almost do it, but my pinky just doesn't stretch that far. I apologize to all my future lovers. Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; I'd apologize to my past lovers but ~~I haven't had any~~They sucked too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	20thcenturyvole 2009-05-31 12:46 am UTC (link)
	I was going to say, hands don't work that way. There's the rest of your palm to take into account, for one thing! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

xandertarbert
2009-05-31 01:14 am UTC (link)

Yes, it's mostly palms don't wotk that way. I can get my fingers to do the spread thumb and pinky, with raised forefinger and middle and curled ring. Or spread thumb and pinky, with together ring and middle and curled forefinger. On both hands. At the same time. Can I put in my application for Sorcerer Supreme?

...I can also rub/pat my belly while patting/rubbing my head. It's a good skill for foreplay.

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	nonnyeve 2009-05-30 02:58 pm UTC (link)
	The fuck happened to his speech patterns? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	readeriif 2009-05-30 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	Bendis happened. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	pensive1 2009-05-30 03:35 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, Doctor Strange, what has Bendis done to you? Brother Voodoo, I'm neither for it nor against it. But I am against de-mantle-ing Strange. :C (Reply to this) (Thread)

	carolcarolcarol 2009-05-31 08:46 am UTC (link)
	I am* against de-mantle-ing Strange.* Me, too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	moneyless_jew 2009-05-30 03:36 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, look, Hellstrom. What the hell happened to the Last Defenders team? I loved that mini. (Reply to this)

	shanejayell 2009-05-30 07:20 pm UTC (link)
	The ART is nice. The rest? UGH (Reply to this)

	proteus_lives 2009-05-30 11:45 pm UTC (link)
	I thought it was too easy. There's going to be a twist. (Reply to this)

ex_menagerie993
2009-05-31 02:55 am UTC (link)

I kind of think the idea of a Sorcerer Supreme who belts out "What 'da hell wrong wit' you people?" is awesome and peculiar at the same time. Yes it's inconsistent characterization but this is Bendis for fuck's sake. What do people expect? Puppies and intellectual discourse? Hell no. He's the god damn Bendis after all.

Weird side not, I knew a Jamaican girl once. Couldn't tell she was Jamaican until she got really angry or really stressed then she'd suddenly end up with the Jamaican accent heavier than I'd ever heard. (She was scary when she was angry ^_^*)

Also, I love that Luke Cage just hit the earthly incarnation of a dark elder-god like thing with a car. This amuses me.

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	buttler 2009-05-31 04:21 pm UTC (link)
	Hmm. I am really, really happy to see Brother Voodoo. But Bendis needs to stop writing him with the overdone eye dialect immediately. (Reply to this)