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benicio127 (benicio127) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-10 23:12:00

Current mood:	amused
Entry tags:	char: harley quinn/harleen quinzel, char: harvey bullock, char: jim gordon, char: joker, char: question/renee montoya, creator: greg rucka, publisher: dc comics

Joker is God. Amen.
So last post... last day... Joker/Harley week. Sniff, sniff.

Anyways this is my favourite scene from the novelization of No Man's Land by Greg Rucka. A lot of it a more detailed version of the comics, but he did add some great bits. I would highly, highly, highly, highly recommend this book to anyone. It's a great read and has some beautiful Cass/Babs scenes. His Babara Gordon is AMAZING. Seriously. Her anger over Huntress... gahhh... well I don't want to spoil it for you, but get it. GET IT!

And for legality, a scan from Mad Love.

This requires a bit of reading.... but it's only a couple of pages!

I'm not sure which is my favourite part of this page. "You have WHO tied up WHERE?" or Joker imagining Riddler saying: "Oh yeah... that's what's his name... you know... Mr. Harley Quinn." LOL!

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	I have that book crinsommask 2009-05-10 11:20 pm UTC (link)
	it's a fun little read (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: I have that book benicio127 2009-05-10 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	It is! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	blake_reitz 2009-05-10 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	I'm always impressed when these novelizations turn out better then the original material. It kind of makes me wish for a giant graphic novel of the novelization of the comic. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	proteus_lives 2009-05-11 12:10 am UTC (link)
	I like novelizations of comics and movies. They make for great light-reading. Alan Dean Foster has them done to a science. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blake_reitz 2009-05-11 12:13 am UTC (link)
	Man, I'm pretty sure that if I made a list of authors I read in middle (and high) school, Alan Dean Foster would be at the top of the "most read." I still recommend his novelization of "The Dig" to just about anyone. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	benicio127 2009-05-11 12:10 am UTC (link)
	I know, I wish they'd use a lot of this material in the comics. Same with the novelization of Superman's death. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	filthysize.livejournal.com 2009-05-11 02:24 am UTC (link)
	Last panel... is that supposed to be Mick Belker on the far left? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	benicio127 2009-05-11 08:25 am UTC (link)
	HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA. Yes. For these purposes, we'll say it is. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	filbypott 2009-05-11 02:51 am UTC (link)
	"Joker is God. Amen." Well, maybe in the Gnostic sense... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	benicio127 2009-05-11 08:22 am UTC (link)
	HAHHAHA!!! Only in Harley's brain. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	THIS WEEK CANNOT END! captain_clown 2009-05-11 05:17 am UTC (link)
	Noooooooooo! Clowns belong with clowns!!! And Mark Hamill's voice was screaming that first panel in my ears. (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

benicio127
2009-05-11 08:12 am UTC (link)

I know!!!! :-(

I really wish they would've added bits like Joker's thoughts while he's driving in the car, Harley's delusional future life ("Well then you just poison him right back."), etc. to the animated episode.
I have the BTAS complete series and during the commentary for Harlequinade, Dini said the Joker/Harley relationship is popular enough for people to want to see a show of them all on their own. ;-)

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	Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END! captain_clown 2009-05-11 08:22 am UTC (link)
	Yeah the Joker's thoughts in the car really should have been added, and, MYGOD a Joker/Harley show drool it could come on right after the Batman/Deadpool hour :D I still don't have the complete BTAS only 1 & 2 because living in the UK means that those swines at WB won't release the rest until Nolan film number 3 :( (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END! benicio127 2009-05-11 08:24 am UTC (link)
	Damn those Brits and Scots! Uhh ... j/k. :-P Actually, the complete series was sold out everywhere here so I just bought it on Amazon. Have you tried that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END! captain_clown 2009-05-11 08:29 am UTC (link)
	Tried and failed, Amazon themselves are always sold out and only have people selling their copies, which from past experience buying from them is never a good idea. Its cool though, I've got the rest downloaded I just really want them for the commentary and to have a complete collection :D (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

benicio127
2009-05-11 08:42 am UTC (link)

You know, I was surprised they didn't have a commentary on Mad Love. I mean for God's sake, they could've talked about the graphic novel and how/why they decided to put in animated TV form.... sniff.

Myself and 90scartoonman had a post on noscans_daily awhile ago asking people what they thought about the final scene of Mad Love (the rose scene). http://community.livejournal.com/noscans_daily/70408.html
;-D

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	Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END! captain_clown 2009-05-11 08:45 am UTC (link)
	They didn't do a Mad Love commentary? What!? Was Paul Dini ill or something :S http://community.livejournal.com/noscans_daily/70408.html annnnnnnd there go my plans for the day :D (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END! benicio127 2009-05-11 08:48 am UTC (link)
	hey didn't do a Mad Love commentary? What!? Was Paul Dini ill or something :S I don't know, but it hurt, I tell ya, it hurt. Inside, ya know? Just... I can't even talk about it! :P (Reply to this) (Parent)

	daningram 2009-05-11 10:13 am UTC (link)
	What are the Cass/Babs scenes about? (Reply to this) (Thread)

benicio127
2009-05-11 10:18 am UTC (link)

Basically it's Cass's first encounter with the Bat-team and she can't speak properly. Babs is teaching her how to speak. According to the novel, Babs is also the one who christens her "Cassandra" as there's no other way to address Cass at that point in time. (She can't speak, therefore can't say her name).

(Tho I'm not sure if Babs giving Cass her name is regular continuity??)

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parsimonia
2009-05-11 11:44 am UTC (link)

(Tho I'm not sure if Babs giving Cass her name is regular continuity??)

I don't think I've actually read Cass's first comic appearances during NML. But Babs is the only person I can think of who would name her Cassandra. Before Cass appeared, IIRC there were a number of instances where Barbara used "Cassandra" as a fake name. And there's the Cassandra from Greek mythology who had dreams about the future and made prophecies or whatever. I could be wrong but I think that makes Cassandra count as an oracle of sorts, so there's a connection.

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	mysteryfan 2009-05-11 11:58 am UTC (link)
	Okay, my heart is now officially broken. I knew he didn't talk to her, but I never knew he didn't even name her. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	parsimonia 2009-05-11 12:03 pm UTC (link)
	Well, if he never spoke to her, how could she have a name that she would be aware of? And when Batman and Barbara first met her, they didn't know Cain was her real father or where she came from, so they had no way of finding a birth record or anything. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mysteryfan 2009-05-11 12:10 pm UTC (link)
	It hadn't occurred to me that that was the case. I got you, but ... even beyond the cruelty of doing so, it seems impractical to teach/train somebody without ever naming a person. It's the first thing we tend to do to all of the things around us: Name it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

parsimonia
2009-05-11 12:22 pm UTC (link)

It's the first thing we tend to do to all of the things around us: Name it.

It's true. And when you think about how much restraint a person would have to have to never speak a word during all that time spent together...he might have found it best not to name her, so he wouldn't be tempted to call her something.

Mind you, they may have had some of non-verbal "names" of a sort for each other, kind of like sign language. But my impression is that Cass would have never heard a single word spoken in all the time she was being raised by Cain until she ran away.

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	benicio127 2009-05-11 12:29 pm UTC (link)
	Agreed. It's as if he didn't even give her the decency of a name. Some people even name a goldfish. He didn't even give her that amount of humanity: a name. I kinda wanna punch Cain in the face right now. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	A bit of Cass love... benicio127 2009-05-11 12:06 pm UTC (link)
	I know, it is terribly sad. Cain was a horrible father who only taught his daughter to speak in violence. And yet, unlike the Rogues Gallery villains (who have similar issues: bad parenting, bullying, abuse), she doesn't take on this traumatic experience and turn it into hate. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: A bit of Cass love... mysteryfan 2009-05-11 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. I see her as a very noble character. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: A bit of Cass love... daningram 2009-05-11 12:53 pm UTC (link)
	Wish DC don't. They're on a massive pre determination kick at the moment, and Cass was the first POW of that war. At least she escaped though, unlike poor Jericho... (Reply to this) (Parent)